Re: Dec Patton : Sun May 12, 2019 10:31 pm  

sir adrian morley wrote:

Patton had a good game today even you and the rest of the boo boys would admit that...come on a bit of praise when its due

I expressed an opinion, and invited people to examine a passage of play which sums him up. You counter with an insult.

We were saved today due to the creatively and speed of thought of Ratchford and Clark.

Re: Dec Patton : Mon May 13, 2019 2:18 am  

Wires71 wrote:

I expressed an opinion, and invited people to examine a passage of play which sums him up. You counter with an insult.

We were saved today due to the creatively and speed of thought of Ratchford and Clark.

Not an ounce the insults you give Patton.

Re: Dec Patton : Mon May 13, 2019 5:14 am  

Wires71 wrote:

I expressed an opinion, and invited people to examine a passage of play which sums him up. You counter with an insult.

We were saved today due to the creatively and speed of thought of Ratchford and Clark.

If you find that an insult then your a touchy so and so...the point being swallow your pride and give praise not harping on about what he did or didn't do for one moment in a game...hopefully Pattonplays well against hull...

Re: Dec Patton : Mon May 13, 2019 7:53 am  

Wires71 wrote:

Watch Patton in minute 70-72 of the Wigan cup game. We get the full range of his offering a wandering run to nowhere and a pass to no-one. When we were in their 20 and needing to score. Inept is putting it kindly.

No offence, but what a stupid argument. Picking one passage of play to highlight someone’s overall ineptness? If we’re doing that I could say Charnley is garbage because he dropped that kick giving Wigan prime position in our half at a crucial point in the game. But it doesn’t work like that pal and you know it. Now please pack your anti-Patton soapbox away for a change would you? I’m indifferent to him but will say that in a game where Austin was evidently both well-marked and also quiet by his own standards because he’d taken a knock, Dec did what he had to and had a decent game.

There aren’t many players in the entire league that would’ve outshined both Ratch and Clark yesterday, and rightly, he didn’t, but he didn’t do much wrong either.

Re: Dec Patton : Mon May 13, 2019 8:14 am  

easyWire wrote:

I think the reason Austin was quiet today was partly tactical. A few times it looked like we were about to pass to him and instead made a cut out ball. I think Price wanted Wigan to play into our hands by assuming Austin was to be the heart of everything. It worked for the Atkins try anyway didn’t it?

Watching the Patton pass back it was a shame....Austin was the foil that rightly drew an eye of attention to create enough gap for Atkins. Patton got no mention from the BBC pundits. Even John Kear praised Austin pass. No one picked it up either.

Re: Dec Patton : Mon May 13, 2019 9:19 am  

rubber duckie wrote:

Watching the Patton pass back it was a shame....Austin was the foil that rightly drew an eye of attention to create enough gap for Atkins. Patton got no mention from the BBC pundits. Even John Kear praised Austin pass. No one picked it up either.

Not surprising, since they were all so keen to heap the praise on the losing side, giving the winners as few plaudits as possible, it’s easier to highlight the star player (despite both ratch and clark outshining him). Very annoying and the mark of poor punditry.

As an aside can the bbc stop letting RHP onto the pitch during the game? Nobody wants him there and never give him a decent interview because guess what, they’re focused elsewhere. Thank goodness he didn’t mither any of our lads. Utter bell endery from whoever thought it’d be a good idea.

Re: Dec Patton : Mon May 13, 2019 9:43 am  

I think Patton has had a few decent games recently and credit where it is due.
There are a couple of things that concern me though.
A) I have never seen a player take so much stick off his team mates for errors. Usually the player that comes up with the error sticks his hand in the air as an apology and they usually get a pat on the back and a "don't worry" shortly followed by a collective signal that we have 1 set or 1 minute to defend.
Recently I have seen Currie, Hughes and Clark with reactions that I have not seen them give to other team members.
B) a lot of the good things that Patton does appears to be pre determined, even the pass to Atkins missing out Austin appeared pre planned but very well executed. His last play cross field kicks are very accurate so he obviously puts a lot of work in on the training ground to execute some of the plays. The part where Patton may need to work on is where a pre planned move is interrupted by something (a defender rushing up or an offload and a bit of broken play) as when he is involved in that he appears slightly indecisive.
I don't think he is the type of player that adapts his play based on what is happening in front of him ( a lot of the time) but if he can start to bring that a bit more into his game he will be a decent SL Half back.

Re: Dec Patton : Mon May 13, 2019 10:14 am  

matt_wire wrote:

Not surprising, since they were all so keen to heap the praise on the losing side, giving the winners as few plaudits as possible, it’s easier to highlight the star player (despite both ratch and clark outshining him). Very annoying and the mark of poor punditry.

As an aside can the bbc stop letting RHP onto the pitch during the game? Nobody wants him there and never give him a decent interview because guess what, they’re focused elsewhere. Thank goodness he didn’t mither any of our lads. Utter bell endery from whoever thought it’d be a good idea.

Totally agree with these on the pitch interviews.. Couldn't give a hoot while the match is stopped for a conversion. And its usually the same old bilge like we are sticking to our game plan..didn't he have to leg it off the pitch at one point..

Re: Dec Patton : Mon May 13, 2019 10:55 am  

Deus Dat Incrementum wrote:

I think Patton has had a few decent games recently and credit where it is due.
There are a couple of things that concern me though.
A) I have never seen a player take so much stick off his team mates for errors. Usually the player that comes up with the error sticks his hand in the air as an apology and they usually get a pat on the back and a "don't worry" shortly followed by a collective signal that we have 1 set or 1 minute to defend.
Recently I have seen Currie, Hughes and Clark with reactions that I have not seen them give to other team members.
B) a lot of the good things that Patton does appears to be pre determined, even the pass to Atkins missing out Austin appeared pre planned but very well executed. His last play cross field kicks are very accurate so he obviously puts a lot of work in on the training ground to execute some of the plays. The part where Patton may need to work on is where a pre planned move is interrupted by something (a defender rushing up or an offload and a bit of broken play) as when he is involved in that he appears slightly indecisive.
I don't think he is the type of player that adapts his play based on what is happening in front of him ( a lot of the time) but if he can start to bring that a bit more into his game he will be a decent SL Half back.

I think this is fair analysis. I think Patton can play well if he is given a decent game plan and a few moves to execute. He can kick a ball, he can deliver a decent pass, he can dummy and run at a hole on occasion. Has he developed the rugby brain and ability to improvise of a Briers or a Johns? No - but it is pretty sad to come on here week after week moaning that he is still the same player as the previous week. He is still better than Sam Powell.

Re: Dec Patton : Mon May 13, 2019 11:46 am  

Good reviews on Patton, next years starting halfback ?