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Re: Second place : Sun Aug 22, 2010 12:20 pm  
[quote="Rob Wire"], we'll stick with what we have thanks which is a team thats going forward and not one thats falling to bits at the seams.



and the funny thing is you still cant beat a team ( as you put it) that's falling to bits at the seams. :D
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Re: Second place : Sun Aug 22, 2010 12:37 pm  
ill be sitting at home with a bottle of whitewatching you get stuffed by leeds, enjoy. :SUBMISSION: :SUBMISSION:
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Re: Second place : Sun Aug 22, 2010 12:38 pm  
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Saints would know all about that in recent years, we'll stick with what we have thanks which is a team thats going forward and not one thats falling to bits at the seams.

:lol: We are falling to bits at the seams? If we are, but we're in second, what does that say about you? You had to play the bottom team to get to the final this year; we had to play Leeds - again - and without halfbacks. Sure, we have been injury-struck this year but in spite of that, we're second and therefore in with a chance of getting to and winning the Grand Final. Only Bradford have won the GF from third. Once. Fact!

Anyway, enjoy Royce Simmons next year as i'm sure he'll bring all of his successful coaching career to St Helens next season. He was a massive hit at Hull but his biggest achievement so far has to be when he took Penrith all the way to the wooden spoon :)

Tony Smith did wonders with the England team Down Under, didn't he? It's all a question of context. Potter did amazing things with the Dragons and yet he's not had the same degree of success at Saints. We're far less disciplined, our defence is far poorer and our attack - aside from some individual brilliance in the side - is basic on the whole. He also happens to be a cardboard cutout. Rolls has been deputy with the Aussie national team for 18 months and worked alongside one of the best coaches in the NRL for years. I'll take my chances on him, especially since he has a reputation for being a club man, rather than a cardboard cutout. If he brings along a better conditioning setup as well, that would be a bonus.
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Re: Second place : Sun Aug 22, 2010 1:05 pm  
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Tony Smith did wonders with the England team Down Under, didn't he? It's all a question of context.


Correct, its a question of context.

So whats the point of bringing up your Tony Smith point above when it has no bearing on his challenge cup or SL achievements which is what we are discussing ?

Nobody could have got that England team to perform against the best international RL team on the planet and the 2nd best international team on the planet, not even Craig Bellamy or Wayne Bennett would have done much better.

We simply got shown up for what we are at international level which is light years behind the australians and were also behind the kiwis especially when they have a full squad available which isn't that often these days, we have some workld class players in the England team but unfortunately we are not world class from 1-17 and you can't afford to carry passengers against the australians or kiwis when their at full strength.

Anyway, to the point about you falling apart at the seams. Your successful team that has carried you for a long time in SL is falling apart at the seams.

Long has left who was your organiser and lead you round the pitch, Cunningham is set to retire, Talau has left who was class at his peak but he hasn't been replacd with equivelant quality. Sculthorpe retired and again he hasn't been replaced with equivelant quality, Flannery is a solid player but he's no Sculthorpe. Cayless left then you brought Fozzard back to replace him lol.

Hargreaves is another average player you signed, Eastmond is a class act but how often is he appearing for you on the pitch these days ? He's certainly no organiser like Long, who will take your team around the pitch after Long and Cunningham ? Don't say Pryce as ive got a cuppa in my hand at the min, he has just over a handful of decent games a year from what ive seen and he's certainly no organiser in the Long or Cunningham mould and neither is Roby or Eastmond as they are 2 individual off the cuff type players.

Yeh your a bogey team, their are plenty of times we should have beaten you but i aint going down that road.
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Re: Second place : Sun Aug 22, 2010 1:16 pm  
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Nobody could have got that England team to perform against the best international RL team on the planet and the 2nd best international team on the planet, not even Craig Bellamy or Wayne Bennett would have done much better. .


Especially when there was infighting between players from two teams. :roll:
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its your first final in about 8 years and now you ravin and rantin about it F**k off, and ill be going old trafford tomoz cheering on the saints and ill be writing on this forum givin you loads of shi* when your drying you eyes and the wire fan will be here handing out the tissues in the thousands, thats if you do take that many fans cause now it looks like its your fans who have jumped on the band wagon now your in a final, this time last year there was only 1000 people in the jjb and now its fillin up cause youve won the league hahaha proper true supporters you are

Re: Second place : Sun Aug 22, 2010 1:18 pm  
I think im going to put a bet on you lot finishing 3rd but beating Saints at KR in the playoffs in the final game at knowsley road its the inevitable IMO. I'd be terrified if i was a Saints fan.
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Re: Second place : Sun Aug 22, 2010 1:20 pm  
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I think im going to put a bet on you lot finishing 3rd but beating Saints at KR in the playoffs in the final game at knowsley road its the inevitable IMO. I'd be terrified if i was a Saints fan.


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Re: Second place : Sun Aug 22, 2010 1:28 pm  
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:lol: We are falling to bits at the seams? If we are, but we're in second, what does that say about you? You had to play the bottom team to get to the final this year; we had to play Leeds - again - and without halfbacks. Sure, we have been injury-struck this year but in spite of that, we're second and therefore in with a chance of getting to and winning the Grand Final. Only Bradford have won the GF from third. Once. Fact!



So you can't win it with a full team, but are in with a chance of winning when missing numerous players?
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Re: Second place : Sun Aug 22, 2010 1:33 pm  
We will put 60 on quins,I hope cas can still make 8th place,it will give them something to fight for at saints.
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Re: Second place : Sun Aug 22, 2010 1:40 pm  
RICHARD5LEGEND wrote:
I think im going to put a bet on you lot finishing 3rd but beating Saints at KR in the playoffs in the final game at knowsley road its the inevitable IMO. I'd be terrified if i was a Saints fan.


then it wouldn't be the final home game.. we'd play at home the week after.. we could only play wire (in the last game at KR) if we won the first game against wire
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