Re: Is it the End of an Era? : Sun Oct 06, 2013 12:06 pm  

Let's agree to differ then.
After witnessing that stunt plane yesterday....MK as he now likes to be known hasn't finished there...there will be more to come in.

Re: Is it the End of an Era? : Sun Oct 06, 2013 12:09 pm  

NickyKiss wrote:

I'm not.

The have signed a couple if good players, a couple of nutcases and a few has beens. They will be strong enough to make the 8 but they'll be nowhere near the top 4.

I can't see the Red Devils challenge for a few seasons yet.

Re: Is it the End of an Era? : Sun Oct 06, 2013 12:26 pm  

Finfin wrote:

Therein lies the problem. Sign someone off the shelf rather than promote from within.

Will be interesting to see who Wigan play at fullback next year to replace Tomkins. I hope they have a young lad coming through their Academy and don't take the approach of signing some 30 odd year old Aussie for a season or two to finish his career.

Re: Is it the End of an Era? : Sun Oct 06, 2013 12:34 pm  

I think Salford will make Wembley if they avoid us.
A grand final in 2

Re: Is it the End of an Era? : Sun Oct 06, 2013 12:45 pm  

sally cinnamon wrote:

Will be interesting to see who Wigan play at fullback next year to replace Tomkins. I hope they have a young lad coming through their Academy and don't take the approach of signing some 30 odd year old Aussie for a season or two to finish his career.

He'll be a fast, elusive pair of legs to slot in and do the same job tomkins does, so i don't see it weakening wigan. He also has so much experience it'll allow them to ease the young lad in gradually and he'll learn from bowen. Then when bowen retires they'll have a ready made tomkins mark II. It's just very smart management and sucession planning by wigan.

In terms of the question, it is the end of an era for warrington. Transition looms. This will remembered as an era of the cup kings - an experienced team that won some CC's but never quite managed to win the big prize. It will be probably be 3 or 4 years before warrington can come back around again after all the experienced heads have departed, at which the point there will be even more pressure to win the grand final.

Re: Is it the End of an Era? : Sun Oct 06, 2013 1:09 pm  

FlexWheeler wrote:

He'll be a fast, elusive pair of legs to slot in and do the same job tomkins does, so i don't see it weakening wigan. He also has so much experience it'll allow them to ease the young lad in gradually and he'll learn from bowen. Then when bowen retires they'll have a ready made tomkins mark II. It's just very smart management and sucession planning by wigan.

In terms of the question, it is the end of an era for warrington. Transition looms. This will remembered as an era of the cup kings - an experienced team that won some CC's but never quite managed to win the big prize. It will be probably be 3 or 4 years before warrington can come back around again after all the experienced heads have departed, at which the point there will be even more pressure to win the grand final.

fair enough on both Points I'm a big fan of Bowen I think Wigan fans Will finally realise Tomkins actually wasnt the second Best full back in the World....... Bowen Will do a very good job....

and yes I do believe there will be a bit of transition for us, especially If we are finished with new signinigs then I think we may finish 3rd or fourth...........but i'll take that, as Ive been around to see previous seasons of transition which was us avoiding the bottom four...

its not the end of an era, or the end of the world..we are getting rid of some old players and replacing with younger........

Re: Is it the End of an Era? : Sun Oct 06, 2013 3:28 pm  

We will still be a good team but not a top team. I doubt we will be anywhere near the final again for the foreseeable future.

Re: Is it the End of an Era? : Sun Oct 06, 2013 3:36 pm  

I do...
we have like for like in props.
A back from Leeds.
we have been over run with 2nd rowers last season and this, we've shifted a few on to make room.
Still, there a surprise is in store after releasing Hodgson from the quota!!

[Fantastic Mr Catpiss]

Re: Is it the End of an Era? : Sun Oct 06, 2013 3:40 pm  

NickyKiss wrote:

The league isn't massively strong at the moment so even with a few losses Wigan and Wire will still compete at the top end if the table. Leeds will be strong again, Huddersfield keep signing solid players and Saints have recruited well. Other then those 3 though there isn't a team capable of breaking the top 4 or 5 IMO.

The one thing I would say about you guys is you should have given more youngsters a chance by now when things have been good. It's easy for young players (well easier) to come in to a team full of experience then it is to come in to a side that has lost a lot of old heads. The depth of your squad has held them back a little IMO.

It is the end of one era for Wire but that's also an exciting time. The resource you have via Simon Moran will ensure you stay in the top 4 for a very long time IMO.

we did that last year, people said we were belittling the league.

We've also been trying to manage our 20s from last year by utilizing swinton, again, people said we've been making a mockery of the situation, but its allowed us to get decent game time for the likes of Glenn Riley and Danny Bridge and a few others who aren't as close to the first team, those two will definitely be int eh first team squad next season along with laithwaite and brad dwyer, rhys evans and GOB.

Re: Is it the End of an Era? : Sun Oct 06, 2013 4:02 pm  

FlexWheeler wrote:

Then when bowen retires they'll have a ready made tomkins mark II.

You cant teach talent. you can advise what you should do in situations but whether they will do it is a different story. If you think by having someone learn from Tomkins and Bowen then you'll have created another Tomkins then I feel sorry for you.

You'll have a steady fullback who will no doubt have good positional play but in terms of flare you have no chance. Players like Sam come round almost never.