Re: Moving Forward / What next? : Sat Nov 14, 2020 12:25 pm  

ratticusfinch wrote:

Indeed, the antithesis of Wane. So many opportunities this year to blood even more youngsters which he wasted. No pandemic and we lose Robson without ever having clapped eyes on him, Livett seems a missed opportunity as well.

Thankfully we haven’t lost Robson now!!!!

Re: Moving Forward / What next? : Sat Nov 14, 2020 12:48 pm  

What would any board of any company do when the management continually can't get the best from their assets ?

Re: Moving Forward / What next? : Sat Nov 14, 2020 1:53 pm  

Asgardian13 wrote:

We can always improve but it's simply not true that we have never 'given the youngsters a go'. Gareth O'Brien ( I am a big fan) had an extended run at 6 and didn't cut it. Dec Patton was given the 6 shirt for more than one entire season and disappointed. On the plus side Toby King - despite many on this board calling him useless - has also had a good run and established himself now as one of the best young centres in SL.

Dec Patton is the only playing halfback at Warrington with a Challenge Cup winners medal, and without his ten minute input in the 1/4 final, we wouldn’t have had the opportunity for Austin and Widdop to play in the semi final to ensure Patton remains the only one.

Re: Moving Forward / What next? : Sat Nov 14, 2020 2:21 pm  

CW8 wrote: Very well put MIAW. You can't win a game of rugby by defending for 80 minutes and when the belief breaks so does the defence anyway. Attack is the best form of defence IMO, in 2012 we had the best defence and the best attack and there fore best points difference by a mile. The defensive stat was largely so good because we made the opposition defend so much. What a year to be a wire fan (except for the end of course). No you didn't. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_League_XVII

CW8 wrote: Very well put MIAW. You can't win a game of rugby by defending for 80 minutes and when the belief breaks so does the defence anyway. Attack is the best form of defence IMO, in 2012 we had the best defence and the best attack and there fore best points difference by a mile. The defensive stat was largely so good because we made the opposition defend so much. What a year to be a wire fan (except for the end of course). No you didn't. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_League_XVII

Re: Moving Forward / What next? : Sat Nov 14, 2020 2:32 pm  

Steve51 wrote:

What would any board of any company do when the management continually can't get the best from their assets ?

They would review the value for money / return on each of those assets , against comparable assets in the rest of the market.

Again, start with the front row

Re: Moving Forward / What next? : Sat Nov 14, 2020 2:57 pm  

Rogues Gallery wrote: No you didn't. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_League_XVII To be fair, he's probably getting confused with 2011 when we had one of the greatest teams of the super league era(of any club!). Think we finished top with a points difference of +670 odd,...................and didn't even get to the grand final

Rogues Gallery wrote: No you didn't. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_League_XVII To be fair, he's probably getting confused with 2011 when we had one of the greatest teams of the super league era(of any club!). Think we finished top with a points difference of +670 odd,...................and didn't even get to the grand final

Re: Moving Forward / What next? : Sat Nov 14, 2020 3:37 pm  

Rogues Gallery wrote: No you didn't. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_League_XVII Yeah they must have been thinking about 2011. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_League_XVI

Rogues Gallery wrote: No you didn't. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_League_XVII Yeah they must have been thinking about 2011. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_League_XVI

Re: Moving Forward / What next? : Sat Nov 14, 2020 3:42 pm  

Moe syslak wrote:

To be fair, he's probably getting confused with 2011 when we had one of the greatest teams of the super league era(of any club!). Think we finished top with a points difference of +670 odd,...................and didn't even get to the grand final

That's the one then. Got my years wrong. Sorry rogues.

[Fantastic Mr Catpiss]

Re: Moving Forward / What next? : Sat Nov 14, 2020 3:43 pm  

WalterWizard wrote:

Thankfully we haven’t lost Robson now!!!!

He might as well have gone, can't be good for him to keep.making the bench and not getting used.

Re: Moving Forward / What next? : Sat Nov 14, 2020 3:52 pm  

rubber duckie wrote:

Dec Patton is the only playing halfback at Warrington with a Challenge Cup winners medal, and without his ten minute input in the 1/4 final, we wouldn’t have had the opportunity for Austin and Widdop to play in the semi final to ensure Patton remains the only one.

Having a challenge cup winners medal isn't a measure of a players ability, for example, Chris Riley has three CC winners medals, Paul Johnson and Tyron McCarthy have one, Ritchie Mathers two with Wire.

Dec Patton has done a job for us, but he's not the future.