Re: IMG : Tue Oct 22, 2024 8:38 pm  

Philth wrote:

So Wakey play in a part time league, win part time competitions and then get graded up for doing well. How does that work?

They’ve won the 1895 cup alongside the Championship grand final, they’ve significantly improved their facilities and significantly improved their financial position. It’s a well deserved grade increase.

Re: IMG : Tue Oct 22, 2024 9:27 pm  

I think "Wolves" is the most failed name of all the 90s SL rebrands.

Plenty of people do refer to the other teams as "the Rhinos", "the Bulls", "the Giants" etc.

Every now again someone who doesn't really follow rugby but knows I support Warrington will refer to "the Wolves" when making small talk with me, eg "are the Wolves playing this weekend?"

As said above, it just sounds weird. I've never heard anyone who genuinely supports us refer to us as anything other than the Wire/Wires, and other teams' fans call us that too. No one chants support for the Wolves, and no one calls us that.

The club tried for years to shake off the Wire nickname because they clearly wanted Wolves to stick for marketing purposes. Once they accepted that was never going to happen they should have done what Wakefield did.

Re: IMG : Tue Oct 22, 2024 9:46 pm  

Alffi_7 wrote:

They’ve won the 1895 cup alongside the Championship grand final, they’ve significantly improved their facilities and significantly improved their financial position. It’s a well deserved grade increase.

Both played by part time teams if I'm not mistaken?

I guess I'm saying the system has rewarded them for being relegated. If they would've stayed up and battled with Hull and London for a year, would they have increased? Hull are likely to go down in grading, would they have gone up if they got relegated last year and won?

Not a specific dig at Wakey, their improvement off field is promising but I don't get how winning in a poorer league is "better" than losing in a tougher league.

Re: IMG : Wed Oct 23, 2024 6:03 am  

I don't think it really matters what your actual score is other than getting you into Super League or not does it? Hull have a stadium and fan base that means they're always going to score high enough for that.

Wakefield scored higher than London in the first place, hence everyone knowing a year ago that Wakefield would probably get straight back to Super League and only restructuring to 14 teams could save London, regardless of either team's on field performance.

As it is, the fact that under normal P+R, London would have got relegated and Wakefield promoted makes it look a bit better. We all knew what was coming though.

Re: IMG : Wed Oct 23, 2024 8:16 am  

So would you keep London in who have been nomads with their playing bases, and poor attendances and finished bottom of the league Philth ?, if it was straight relegation and promotion Wakefield would be in SL any way, so the gradings would not be nessesary, but as it is they have spent big regarding stadium issues and had the gonads to keep a full time squad, which could have easily back fired, a squad that would have beaten a few of the bottom half clubs in SL and with a bigger fan base, Wakefield didn't create IMG, but did their utmost on and off the field to achive the best grading that they could, we will have to see next season, if they are in SL, how they react.

Re: IMG : Wed Oct 23, 2024 9:32 am  

Re: IMG : Wed Oct 23, 2024 9:33 am  

karetaker wrote:

IMG Club Grading

Grade A

1. St Helens. 17.02
2. Wigan Warriors, 16.91
3. Leeds Rhinos, 16.84
4. Warrington Wolves, 16.27
5. Hull KR, 15.97
6. Catalans Dragons, 15.52
7. Leigh Leopards, 15.13
8. Wakefield Trinity, 15.09
9. Castleford Tigers, 15.02

Grade B

10. Hull FC, 14.51
11. Huddersfield Giants, 14.48
12. Salford Red Devils, 13.97
13. Toulouse Olympique, 13.58
14. London Broncos, 12.65
15. York Knights, 12.42
16. Bradford Bulls, 12.15
17. Barrow Raiders, 11.22
18. Featherstone Rovers, 10.75
19. Keighley Cougars, 9.02
20. Halifax Panthers, 8.79
21. Sheffield Eagles, 8.77
22. Widnes Vikings, 8.60
23. Doncaster, 7.52
24. Workington Town, 7.26

Grade C

25. Swinton, 7.15
26. Dewsbury Rams, 7.13
27. Oldham, 7.00
28. Hunslet, 6.98
29. Rochdale Hornets, 6.47
30. Midlands Hurricanes, 5.66
31. Cornwall, 5.29
32. Newcastle Thunder, 5.20
33. North Wales Crusaders, 4.72

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Batley Bulldogs
Whitehaven

So basically as we were in 2023.

1. St Helens. 17.02
2. Wigan Warriors, 16.91
3. Leeds Rhinos, 16.84
4. Warrington Wolves, 16.27
5. Hull KR, 15.97
6. Catalans Dragons, 15.52
7. Leigh Leopards, 15.13
8. Wakefield Trinity, 15.09
9. Castleford Tigers, 15.02
10. Hull FC, 14.51
11. Huddersfield Giants, 14.48
12. Salford Red Devils, 13.97

Re: IMG : Wed Oct 23, 2024 9:35 am  

I don’t fully understand how it works or the behind the scenes but for the life of me can someone explain how Castleford are grade A

Re: IMG : Wed Oct 23, 2024 9:44 am  

Re: IMG : Wed Oct 23, 2024 9:48 am  

Some big changes from 2023.