Re: New Coach : Sun Aug 06, 2023 9:55 am  

Lord Tony Smith wrote:

Love how one of his reasons is ‘his team can beat anyone in the comp on their day’. So can any team. Hudds beat Catalans away, Wakey beat us. It’s not a prerequisite for becoming a coach.

To be honest, I've nothing against Rowley and, if he was appointed, I'd support him and wish him the best - I'd just be very underwhelmed and not have very high expectations.

Ultimately, if its a choice between someone like Rowley and a young, ambitious NRL assistant coach, then it has to be the latter for me.

Re: New Coach : Sun Aug 06, 2023 10:03 am  

Agreed. Everything about Rowley in the summary above could replicate Powell at Cas.

Re: New Coach : Sun Aug 06, 2023 10:04 am  

They did just give Burgess glowing coaching references on the Matty Johns show.

Re: New Coach : Sun Aug 06, 2023 10:04 am  

Whoever we bring in, I’d want an old guard Director of Rugby to overlook getting everything the incumbent coach requires to get a perfect team, while dealing with every other aspect allowing the coach to coach, not manage.

Hence in previous posts, suggesting Alex Ferguson could manage our club. He doesn’t need to know the ins and outs of RL, he knows the ups and downs of management.

Re: New Coach : Sun Aug 06, 2023 10:05 am  

Dita's Slot Meter wrote:

Ultimately, if its a choice between someone like Rowley and a young, ambitious NRL assistant coach, then it has to be the latter for me.

Spot on.

Re: New Coach : Sun Aug 06, 2023 10:17 am  

ratticusfinch wrote:

They did just give Burgess glowing coaching references on the Matty Johns show.

He's arguably the best RL forward of his generation. Granted that doesn't guarantee him making a great, or even competent, coach, but it makes for something more exciting than many of the suggestions being made.

It also would possibly attract some Aussie players who want to be here to play for the coach, rather than just for the pay cheque.

Re: New Coach : Sun Aug 06, 2023 10:19 am  

Lord Tony Smith wrote:

It happened believe me. Can you honestly see Wane getting on with Karl? Wane wouldn’t take him at all and would probably want him gone within a week. The board at Warrington are scared of how much Wane would shake things up.

Yup, it definitely happened. It sounds unbelievable because we went for coach with no GF wins as opposed to the coach with three.

I can't find out the boards rationale for that. The rumour is Wane wanted too much control. I would be happy to let him have whatever he wants.

Re: New Coach : Sun Aug 06, 2023 10:24 am  

Seems odd (but not surprising) that the board was reluctant to give Wane too much control but then seemingly gave Powell carte blanche to do whatever he wanted…

Would Saints, Wigan, or Leeds appoint Rowley?

Re: New Coach : Sun Aug 06, 2023 10:28 am  

Even if Burgess is getting glowing recommendations of his mates on TV, it's not he hasn't had well publicised off field issues which make you question his judgement and character.

Maybe he has put those days behind him but he's had bad publicity recently after being arrested (and later cleared) for drug driving. He's back in court early next year on a charge of driving while suspended.

The risk of bad PR is too high for me.

Re: New Coach : Sun Aug 06, 2023 10:31 am  

ratticusfinch wrote:

They did just give Burgess glowing coaching references on the Matty Johns show.

I'd always be careful with media recommendations. I mean who actually talks about assistant coaches day to day, seems a bit suss the he's up for a job and then just so happens to get a glowing recommendation from the media.

I always used to puzzle at some of the glowing match commentary by Phil Clarke on some players (who in my opinion where not particularly standout players), then I realised that his brother is a agent for rugby league players, so then it all makes sense.

I'm sure a good agent would be in touch with the show to make sure burgess had someone promoting him as he is being considered.

Equally I'd hope the person in charge of Warringtons recruitment has some rugby knowledge rather than relying on media reports and you tube clips.