Re: New Prop : Wed Mar 23, 2022 4:22 pm  

Captain Hook wrote:

To be fair RD you have added a new theme that I haven’t seen from you before, namely Cooper is a 2nd row, reliant on Hill and now found out. How this wasn’t picked up at Warrington in his 2 stints or Newcastle Knights when he was there shows how little the professionals know.

Like I said. Found out.

Re: New Prop : Wed Mar 23, 2022 4:45 pm  

But props are no longer like barrels of lard who train in the pub ,they are more athletic & manouverable than they used to be. The game these days ,ever since 6 tackles was brought in, is in need of forwards who are not much different to backs.

Re: New Prop : Wed Mar 23, 2022 4:56 pm  

ninearches wrote:

But props are no longer like barrels of lard who train in the pub ,they are more athletic & manouverable than they used to be. The game these days ,ever since 6 tackles was brought in, is in need of forwards who are not much different to backs.

Quote(ish) David Fafita
‘We knew they(Wire) was light, and the plan was to run up the middle right through them’

Make of that as you will.

Re: New Prop : Wed Mar 23, 2022 6:01 pm  

A good Prop or two would certainly not go amiss but it’s not our only problem nor would it be an instant solution. The players have clearly yet to adapt to the Powell system, and maybe some of them never will. The lack of line speed is a concern but I think that in particular we are struggling in transitioning from attacking to defensive shape. Consequently we are turning ball over and then allowing the opposition to march up field and to find huge gaps. Add to that the panic and reverting to what we’ve done for several years under Price and there is clearly a lot more work yet to be done. Hopefully Powell can fix it, and soon.

Re: New Prop : Wed Mar 23, 2022 6:13 pm  

rubber duckie wrote:

Like I said. Found out.

Made up you mean. Playing 15 years in the wrong position at SL, NRL and International level. He would’ve made one hell of a 2nd row if he achieved all this in the wrong position.

Re: New Prop : Wed Mar 23, 2022 6:58 pm  

Captain Hook wrote:

Made up you mean. Playing 15 years in the wrong position at SL, NRL and International level. He would’ve made one hell of a 2nd row if he achieved all this in the wrong position.

I feel even worse now I know we actually need 4 new props!

[Uncle Rico]

Re: New Prop : Wed Mar 23, 2022 7:03 pm  

rubber duckie wrote:

Quote(ish) David Fafita
‘We knew they(Wire) was light, and the plan was to run up the middle right through them’

Make of that as you will.

You are correct RD he did say that and to be fair so was Fafita, we are light but what I didn't make of it was that he thought Mike Cooper is a second rower

Re: New Prop : Wed Mar 23, 2022 8:24 pm  

Bring back the beast !!!

Re: New Prop : Wed Mar 23, 2022 8:32 pm  

St Helens Wolf wrote:

A good Prop or two would certainly not go amiss but it’s not our only problem nor would it be an instant solution. The players have clearly yet to adapt to the Powell system, and maybe some of them never will. The lack of line speed is a concern but I think that in particular we are struggling in transitioning from attacking to defensive shape. Consequently we are turning ball over and then allowing the opposition to march up field and to find huge gaps. Add to that the panic and reverting to what we’ve done for several years under Price and there is clearly a lot more work yet to be done. Hopefully Powell can fix it, and soon.

Is it difficult to coach an increase in line speed? Or is it enthusiasm and determination?

Re: New Prop : Wed Mar 23, 2022 9:16 pm  

Wires71 wrote:

Is it difficult to coach an increase in line speed? Or is it enthusiasm and determination?

Well said. A coach won't make any difference if players have no desire. The likes of currie, widdop and King are playing games half ar$Ed, and that's the ONE thing you can't do if you want to win any game of rugby league.