: Sat Mar 21, 2009 5:59 pm  

saintc wrote:

So a Saints / Leeds game isnt top class?

No

: Sat Mar 21, 2009 6:31 pm  

saintc wrote:

So a Saints / Leeds game isnt top class?

As Mikeywire simply puts it....No.

Its good entertaining stuff, and probably as good as you'll see on a British pitch, but top-class?....Not a chance.

: Sat Mar 21, 2009 6:43 pm  

The Angry Pirate wrote:

As Mikeywire simply puts it....No.

Its good entertaining stuff, and probably as good as you'll see on a British pitch, but top-class?....Not a chance.

So then, the NRL is THAT much better?

If so, why are there numerous so called great players who do well over there and come over here and end up either pap or average?

: Sat Mar 21, 2009 6:44 pm  

saintc wrote:

So then, the NRL is THAT much better?

If so, why are there numerous so called great players who do well over there and come over here and end up either pap or average?

Did you not see the Brisbane v Melbourne game?

PS

I would imagine it is more to do with the sum of it's parts.

: Sat Mar 21, 2009 6:50 pm  

saintc wrote:

So then, the NRL is THAT much better?

If so, why are there numerous so called great players who do well over there and come over here and end up either pap or average?

Because those you allude to, and unfortunately they seem to play for the Wire, are mainly here to make themselves a comfortable future...

I am not saying Saints and Leeds aren't GOOD sides, its just annoying when the idiot brothers on Sky build up both teams as World-class, when in reality they are nothing of the sort.

Look at the recent World Club Challenge...finally the Aussies take it seriously, and not as a holiday, and what happens??...

You want a fair World Club Challenge?....Play it in June or July, alternating between Britain and Australia, and I promise you, that trophy wouldn't be seen on these shores again.

: Sat Mar 21, 2009 6:53 pm  

getdownmonkeyman wrote:

Did you not see the Brisbane v Melbourne game?.

nah, I didnt.

getdownmonkeyman wrote:

PS

I would imagine it is more to do with the sum of it's parts.

might be a bit of that but I also think that we over-rate the NRL players as well.

Matt King - Enough said.

Wasnt Monoghan(sp) in the dream team over there before coming here?

Rauhihi - Been better this last season and a bit but not the so called world class prop from the NRL by any stretch.

Chris Flannery - Featured in the so called toughest contest in the SOO and yet (bar last night) has been average at best and IMHO is no better than Paul Clough.

Wasnt Ben Harris highly rated in the NRL and yet a pile of toss here?

Tony Carroll anyone?

: Sat Mar 21, 2009 6:54 pm  

I agree with the Monkey and the Pirate here.
Entertainment value is all well and good, but our bestest westest super dooper stars in this country fall a good way short of 'top class'.

: Sat Mar 21, 2009 6:55 pm  

The Angry Pirate wrote:

Because those you allude to, and unfortunately they seem to play for the Wire, are mainly here to make themselves a comfortable future... .

Some of them are

The Angry Pirate wrote:

I am not saying Saints and Leeds aren't GOOD sides, its just annoying when the idiot brothers on Sky build up both teams as World-class, when in reality they are nothing of the sort..

If you threw them in the NRL where do you think they'd finish in the regular table. I think either Saints or Leeds would be as good as 5th or 6th which is pretty bloody good.

The Angry Pirate wrote:

You want a fair World Club Challenge?....Play it in June or July, alternating between Britain and Australia, and I promise you, that trophy wouldn't be seen on these shores again.

Would be a good way to do it.

: Sat Mar 21, 2009 6:56 pm  

saintc wrote:

nah, I didnt.



might be a bit of that but I also think that we over-rate the NRL players as well.

Matt King - Enough said.

Wasnt Monoghan(sp) in the dream team over there before coming here?

Rauhihi - Been better this last season and a bit but not the so called world class prop from the NRL by any stretch.

Chris Flannery - Featured in the so called toughest contest in the SOO and yet (bar last night) has been average at best and IMHO is no better than Paul Clough.

Wasnt Ben Harris highly rated in the NRL and yet a pile of toss here?

Tony Carroll anyone?

It's a bit like a gourmet chef getting a job working the kitchens in Maccies, though, to be fair.

: Sat Mar 21, 2009 6:56 pm  

1 simple way for us to blow Saintc out of the water with this argument??

Let's all remember Paul Wellens and Ade Gardener at the last World Cup...