Re: Wolves TV anyone? : Sun Jan 18, 2015 8:13 pm  

Paul Youane wrote:

Yeah, Centurions tv falls under the hospital radio category for me. It doesn't as far as I can see do live games, it shows old games and interviews with players etc, which Warrington give you for free on their website. It would seem to rely upon the goodwill of volunteers to staff it and generous donations of equipment to facilitate it. The money you referred to is revenue, admittedly impressive for Leigh, and not profit of running it if you off-set the value of gifts and volunteer's time. It will be interesting to see how the revenue and service maintains when the volunteers initial enthusiasm wanes, without their goodwill it is not sustainable.

The Parkinson family have recorded leigh games for many decades, I think they would be I sulted by your typically condescending post.

Re: Wolves TV anyone? : Mon Jan 19, 2015 11:59 am  

Ganson's Optician wrote:

The Parkinson family have recorded leigh games for many decades, I think they would be I sulted by your typically condescending post.

Hull kr started this off a couple of years before Wigan, Our price has rose to £45 for the year but it's cracking value and it certainly isn't losing money. We had the full derby friendly online to watch last night at 6pm. We get the full match of all home and away games and interviews with players and features most days.

Re: Wolves TV anyone? : Mon Jan 19, 2015 12:35 pm  

Paul Youane wrote: Based upon the content's of the strategic report contained in Wigan's annual accounts for the last three years (eg since to start of Wigan tv). In 2012 - "The directors do not expect the 2012 year to be profitable as the company ..... develops its new TV OnLine revenue opportunities." http://www.insidermedia.com/insider/nor ... continues/ In 2013 - "The directors expect the year ahead to be a challenging one in tough economic conditions and with increased operating costs arising from the ......... setting up Wigan TV." http://www.insidermedia.com/insider/nor ... fits-slip/ In 2014 - "The directors do not expect the 2014 year to be profitable due to the clubs(sic) increasing commitment to expand its online TV opportunity." Now admittedly despite the above warnings Wigan did manage to turn in a profit of £27,800 and £108,234 in 2012 and 2013 respectively although I'd personally attribute this to the £1m plus in transfer fees received as revenue in the accounts over that period rather than the Wigan TV subscriptions paid by your half dozen mates and a handful of ex-pats in Aus. An on-line tv service amounting to anything more/better than a hospital radio'esque volunteer backed option is un-sustainable for any club in a minority sport like rugby league. I can't help but think Wigan TV is little more than a vanity driven money pit, the only difference a Warrington version would have is that we would create even less revenue and therefore the money pit would be even bigger. Yes, but that also includes a big investment into Central Park and there will also be further investments in the next couple of years into other areas. Lenegan is no mug.

Paul Youane wrote: Based upon the content's of the strategic report contained in Wigan's annual accounts for the last three years (eg since to start of Wigan tv). In 2012 - "The directors do not expect the 2012 year to be profitable as the company ..... develops its new TV OnLine revenue opportunities." http://www.insidermedia.com/insider/nor ... continues/ In 2013 - "The directors expect the year ahead to be a challenging one in tough economic conditions and with increased operating costs arising from the ......... setting up Wigan TV." http://www.insidermedia.com/insider/nor ... fits-slip/ In 2014 - "The directors do not expect the 2014 year to be profitable due to the clubs(sic) increasing commitment to expand its online TV opportunity." Now admittedly despite the above warnings Wigan did manage to turn in a profit of £27,800 and £108,234 in 2012 and 2013 respectively although I'd personally attribute this to the £1m plus in transfer fees received as revenue in the accounts over that period rather than the Wigan TV subscriptions paid by your half dozen mates and a handful of ex-pats in Aus. An on-line tv service amounting to anything more/better than a hospital radio'esque volunteer backed option is un-sustainable for any club in a minority sport like rugby league. I can't help but think Wigan TV is little more than a vanity driven money pit, the only difference a Warrington version would have is that we would create even less revenue and therefore the money pit would be even bigger. Yes, but that also includes a big investment into Central Park and there will also be further investments in the next couple of years into other areas. Lenegan is no mug.

Re: Wolves TV anyone? : Tue Jan 20, 2015 10:12 am  

rubber duckie wrote:

You both missed my point.
Pies were packing them in at the JJB when they was a drought in silverware and they bottom of the league, while we however was fairing very much better.

Of course consistancy and or success breeds growth but we have stumbled in the last 4 seasons. It says to me that something isn't quite right when attendance drops, but what is for sure, it is Wolves TV that is responsible for it.

We got your point but it is based on erroneous analysis. Wigan got over their 'hump' and kept good crowds because of the previous fifty years of success. Wire have had very little success before 2009, as is well documented, with neither of the big two trophies won since 1974.

Re: Wolves TV anyone? : Tue Jan 20, 2015 2:38 pm  

How do you reason for 1980/81 then.
In 81/82 pies were still getting more fans!

Re: Wolves TV anyone? : Tue Jan 20, 2015 3:11 pm  

rubber duckie wrote:

How do you reason for 1980/81 then.
In 81/82 pies were still getting more fans!

I dont want to get involved but the fact this fanbase has been built up over 50 years covers the timeline in which you are referring....

Re: Wolves TV anyone? : Fri Jan 23, 2015 10:24 pm  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

Yes, but that also includes a big investment into Central Park and there will also be further investments in the next couple of years into other areas. Lenegan is no mug.

No mention of investment in Central Park in that latest statement.

I see that he was saying Wigan lost £500k last year at the forum last night. It would take an awful lot of subscribers to Wigan TV to cover that sort of loss year on year.

Re: Wolves TV anyone? : Sun Jan 25, 2015 9:28 am  

Mmmmm...wonder if someone from the club has been reading this thread? http://warringtonwolves.com/wolves-tv/

Mmmmm...wonder if someone from the club has been reading this thread? http://warringtonwolves.com/wolves-tv/

Re: Wolves TV anyone? : Tue Jan 27, 2015 7:48 am  

Yes Ian Lenagan predicted that PY and also said that we are receiving over 3/4 million in sponsorship deals this year which is more than any other Super League club, the Wigan TV is great value at £35 yearly and with the Wish AM commentary on the Saints V Wigan game it was superb, all the U19 games too.

Re: Wolves TV anyone? : Tue Jan 27, 2015 1:22 pm  

Paul Youane wrote:

No mention of investment in Central Park in that latest statement.

I see that he was saying Wigan lost £500k last year at the forum last night. It would take an awful lot of subscribers to Wigan TV to cover that sort of loss year on year.

He did mention it at the fans forum, and the shareholders meeting.