Re: Widdop injured : Wed Dec 04, 2019 7:28 pm  

sally cinnamon wrote:

It does feel a bit like the 'forgotten trophy'. It's a bit puzzling that we're not dining out on the warm glow of that Wembley win all through this off season.

I think a good number are - especially on Facebook. But for others it was the way and how we fell away in the league and bombed out of the playoffs which has put a dampener on things. In truth I think we all just want to nail the GF now. We have waited a long time.

Re: Widdop injured : Wed Dec 04, 2019 8:03 pm  

Don't forget Wires 71 the much better team & nailed on winners were robbed on the day. The lustre of our win is very much tarnished & i can only look back at at the win through trauma induced tears.
Meanwhile , COYW !

Re: Widdop injured : Wed Dec 04, 2019 9:57 pm  

Wires71 wrote:

I think a good number are - especially on Facebook. But for others it was the way and how we fell away in the league and bombed out of the playoffs which has put a dampener on things. In truth I think we all just want to nail the GF now. We have waited a long time.

To be fair you stated you never went to Wembley to witness Warrington beat Saints in the first Challenge Cup final between the two teams so won't have that emotional tie to the day that the fans that went will have.

To me it was a fantastic win made all the sweeter with it being against the team that has inflicted such misery on us over the years. Perhaps if you had been in attendance to see Warrington lift the cup in such memorable circumstances as substantial underdogs against a team bang in form you would hold the winning of the trophy in higher regard.

We'll never know as you cannot replicate the experience of actually being there witnessing a trophy win just like Sally not having been in attendance at Elland Road.

Re: Widdop injured : Thu Dec 05, 2019 10:06 am  

Paul Youane wrote:

To be fair you stated you never went to Wembley to witness Warrington beat Saints in the first Challenge Cup final between the two teams so won't have that emotional tie to the day that the fans that went will have.

To me it was a fantastic win made all the sweeter with it being against the team that has inflicted such misery on us over the years. Perhaps if you had been in attendance to see Warrington lift the cup in such memorable circumstances as substantial underdogs against a team bang in form you would hold the winning of the trophy in higher regard.

We'll never know as you cannot replicate the experience of actually being there witnessing a trophy win just like Sally not having been in attendance at Elland Road.

Yes that's a fair point. I didn't go to Wembley to witness it and it was a great achievement for sure. I'd been at all of our last 5 final losses and gave it a miss.

So I'm not denigrating the win at all - we are talking about our personal feelings.

So back to Sally's point are you dining out on the warm glow or a tad disappointed with the season?

Re: Widdop injured : Thu Dec 05, 2019 1:31 pm  

Wires71 wrote:

Yes that's a fair point. I didn't go to Wembley to witness it and it was a great achievement for sure. I'd been at all of our last 5 final losses and gave it a miss.

So I'm not denigrating the win at all - we are talking about our personal feelings.

So back to Sally's point are you dining out on the warm glow or a tad disappointed with the season?

Winning the Challenge Cup - one of only two major trophies available, means it was a successful season. To me you have to operate in a very strange stratosphere or apparently be one of the "serious people" to think otherwise.

Somewhat perversely despite it being by definition to me a successful season, at the end of the season I was disappointed. I guess that was due to the promise we showed for the season ahead with a fit Austin in full flow for the first half of the season subsequently not being fulfilled and the season ending in a miserable, damp squib run of form.

Thing is I'm not one of the serious people. To me 2020 is a new season and with the rapido-try-scoring sensation Matty Ashton being added to our physically imposing three-quarter line of Lineham, King, Gelling, Burrell and Charnley being fed by our three stand-out pivots of Austin, Ratchford and Widdop on the platform provided by our all international pack of Hill, Cooper, Clark, Philbin, BMM, Currie and Hughes I can't help being positive about the year to come.

Therefore I guess I should again take my leave from this forum and leave it to the serious people.

Re: Widdop injured : Thu Dec 05, 2019 2:30 pm  

Paul Youane wrote: Winning the Challenge Cup - one of only two major trophies available, means it was a successful season. To me you have to operate in a very strange stratosphere or apparently be one of the "serious people" to think otherwise. Somewhat perversely despite it being by definition to me a successful season, at the end of the season I was disappointed. I guess that was due to the promise we showed for the season ahead with a fit Austin in full flow for the first half of the season subsequently not being fulfilled and the season ending in a miserable, damp squib run of form. Thing is I'm not one of the serious people. To me 2020 is a new season and with the rapido-try-scoring sensation Matty Ashton being added to our physically imposing three-quarter line of Lineham, King, Gelling, Burrell and Charnley being fed by our three stand-out pivots of Austin, Ratchford and Widdop on the platform provided by our all international pack of Hill, Cooper, Clark, Philbin, BMM, Currie and Hughes I can't help being positive about the year to come. Therefore I guess I should again take my leave from this forum and leave it to the serious people. Don't flounce out, it's a broad church this forum. We need all voices. I guess we can assign the "serious people" moniker to the CEO though. MT: Taking the Challenge Cup out of it and just focusing on Super League, I asked Steve whether he thought the Super League season had been a failure and he said no. Do you and the board agree with him? KF: I disagree. I think it has been a failure. How is finishing fourth and crashing out in the first round of the play-offs not a failure? Steve has got us to three finals and has won us one of them. He has done an incredible job but ultimately, this Super League season is a failure. MT: If we’d have sat here in January and I’d have offered you the Challenge Cup but fourth place in Super League and out in the first round of the play-offs, what would you have said? KF: I’d have said that would be really disappointing. Source: Horses mouth. https://www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/ne ... ead-coach/

Paul Youane wrote: Winning the Challenge Cup - one of only two major trophies available, means it was a successful season. To me you have to operate in a very strange stratosphere or apparently be one of the "serious people" to think otherwise. Somewhat perversely despite it being by definition to me a successful season, at the end of the season I was disappointed. I guess that was due to the promise we showed for the season ahead with a fit Austin in full flow for the first half of the season subsequently not being fulfilled and the season ending in a miserable, damp squib run of form. Thing is I'm not one of the serious people. To me 2020 is a new season and with the rapido-try-scoring sensation Matty Ashton being added to our physically imposing three-quarter line of Lineham, King, Gelling, Burrell and Charnley being fed by our three stand-out pivots of Austin, Ratchford and Widdop on the platform provided by our all international pack of Hill, Cooper, Clark, Philbin, BMM, Currie and Hughes I can't help being positive about the year to come. Therefore I guess I should again take my leave from this forum and leave it to the serious people. Don't flounce out, it's a broad church this forum. We need all voices. I guess we can assign the "serious people" moniker to the CEO though. MT: Taking the Challenge Cup out of it and just focusing on Super League, I asked Steve whether he thought the Super League season had been a failure and he said no. Do you and the board agree with him? KF: I disagree. I think it has been a failure. How is finishing fourth and crashing out in the first round of the play-offs not a failure? Steve has got us to three finals and has won us one of them. He has done an incredible job but ultimately, this Super League season is a failure. MT: If we’d have sat here in January and I’d have offered you the Challenge Cup but fourth place in Super League and out in the first round of the play-offs, what would you have said? KF: I’d have said that would be really disappointing. Source: Horses mouth. https://www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/ne ... ead-coach/

Re: Widdop injured : Mon Dec 09, 2019 6:17 pm  

Paul Youane wrote:

Winning the Challenge Cup - one of only two major trophies available, means it was a successful season. To me you have to operate in a very strange stratosphere or apparently be one of the "serious people" to think otherwise.

Somewhat perversely despite it being by definition to me a successful season, at the end of the season I was disappointed. I guess that was due to the promise we showed for the season ahead with a fit Austin in full flow for the first half of the season subsequently not being fulfilled and the season ending in a miserable, damp squib run of form.

Thing is I'm not one of the serious people. To me 2020 is a new season and with the rapido-try-scoring sensation Matty Ashton being added to our physically imposing three-quarter line of Lineham, King, Gelling, Burrell and Charnley being fed by our three stand-out pivots of Austin, Ratchford and Widdop on the platform provided by our all international pack of Hill, Cooper, Clark, Philbin, BMM, Currie and Hughes I can't help being positive about the year to come.

Therefore I guess I should again take my leave from this forum and leave it to the serious people.

This is SUCH a good post. Thank you!

Re: Widdop injured : Thu Jan 09, 2020 10:19 am  

OFFICIAL - Now Ruled out for the first month of the season with an ankle injury.

Not a great start to his Wire career.

Re: Widdop injured : Thu Jan 09, 2020 10:28 am  

It's alright... We've got Patton.

Re: Widdop injured : Thu Jan 09, 2020 10:30 am  

moving on... wrote:

It's alright... We've got Patton.

Were going into the new season with a pretty similar team to last year
I fear the worst!