Re: Price Out : Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:36 am  

Wistfulwire wrote:

Price been far better than TS and has never took us into the middle 8s

While you’re correct re middle 8’s, that is not the only barometer of a good job.

Smiths downfall, in my opinion, was a desire to complete projects. This was either a self driven campaign or forced upon him by a board unwilling to invest. This was seen in 2015, 2016 and 2017.

2015 saw players like Wheeler, Russell, Antony England etc. brought in trying to create a ‘Chris Hill’. Who was essentially a bargain superstar. Sandow came in too late to do anything (and was horribly unfit).

In 2016 we got Gidley, plus Hughes, Dodds, Cox, Bailey and Westerman. Gidley aside they were all project players. Patch up jobs or last roll of the dice. Still, won the league leaders shield and got to within a score in both of the major finals.

At this point, Smith either doubled down that he could change and develop players into a champion team - or his hand was forced by lack of money. (Draper era, so may have spend up on fancy lights, new club shop and new badges). So we got Blythe, Crosby and Pomeroy. Only Cooper turned out to be a good signing.

Against 2018 where we got BMM (dream team, huge fee) Roberts (Marquee), Goodwin, Charnley. 2019 Austin, Clark, Mamo on good money and 2020 with Widdop. All of these players are bought in on big money. In addition to the squad fillers, Gelling, Latu, Tasi, Thompson, Davis, Walker etc.

The board have backed Price. They have let him have the same luxury as Smith, to bring in potential talent in younger/project player, plus the added benefit of huge names being brought in from NRL first teams. Starters. Plus, cap-free additions like Charnley and Burrell. He’s brought in his own team (Henderson, Gardner etc) and had a chance for them to settle in. Last year we finished 5th in what was a two horse race in August. And this year we failed to beat Salford and Hull in the big games. He won one trophy in the three years of huge investment, same as Smith on a show string.

I don’t think we’re any further on. We’re essentially in the Cullen era again. Stars, but not good enough to make it count.

Re: Price Out : Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:40 am  

We will probably end up with Stuart Pearce

Re: Price Out : Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:50 am  

shinymcshine wrote:

We need a credible experienced manager with a good track record, otherwise Ingles' talent will just be wasted (like Widdop has been this year).

Ian Millward has the ability if he would come

Re: Price Out : Fri Nov 13, 2020 11:13 am  

Wistfulwire wrote:

Ian Millward has the ability if he would come

I’m not one to leap to conclusions, but “Betts” and “Millward” would suggest you are just here to troll.

Re: Price Out : Fri Nov 13, 2020 11:20 am  

Got to be Watson surely

Re: Price Out : Fri Nov 13, 2020 11:21 am  

No doubt if they are going to make a change KP will be Zooming Aussie coaches we have never heard of to replace Price, we could try for McDermott or throw big money towards Mr Wane or try to gazump Hudds to Watson if indeed he was ever going there at all?

Re: Price Out : Fri Nov 13, 2020 12:10 pm  

Tony Smith is an infinitely superior coach to Price in every aspect.

TS coached us through a period when the comp was tougher and not only delivered better results but did it with style.

Price has been backed financially and has delivered dreadful rugby and failed to establish us as #1 in a competition which, at best, had 2 or 3 decent teams in it.

Re: Price Out : Fri Nov 13, 2020 12:14 pm  

If Smith has his love for the game back....get him back

Re: Price Out : Fri Nov 13, 2020 12:51 pm  

We need a proven winner. Simple as that. Wane or McDermott fit that bill. Jury still out on Watson for me. Hes done well, overachieving at Salford. But is this job with us a bit too soon for him?

Re: Price Out : Fri Nov 13, 2020 12:56 pm  

Longbarn Wire wrote:

We need a proven winner. Simple as that. Wane or McDermott fit that bill. Jury still out on Watson for me. Hes done well, overachieving at Salford. But is this job with us a bit too soon for him?

Was the Leeds job too soon for Tony Smith? Shall we just wait for watson star to fall and then appoint him when everyone views him as damaged goods having been released from another club? He's over achieved with what has been at his disposal for 2 seasons running, what more does he have to do? It's the polar opposite of what we are used to. From my viewpoint he looks to be exactly what we need.