Re: Kasiano and Dudson : Mon Sep 12, 2022 7:24 pm  

Douglas Black wrote:

Do you think Wales are going to finish above PNG and Tonga?

Given PNG put 50 on them at the last World Cup, doubtful unless they find some NRL players with Welsh ancestry!!

Be awfully nice of them to include him in the squad though!

He could be back for their last game vs PNG if he can count a pre World Cup friendly in his ban, might be worth their while.

Re: Kasiano and Dudson : Sun Jul 30, 2023 6:45 pm  

Brick with eyes wrote:

Good luck with those two clowns

As I said back in September .

It looks like these are the two Powell wanted to drop but can’t.
Big lumps can win games . Big useless lumps can’t

Powell should be sacked , if only for signing these two

Re: Kasiano and Dudson : Sun Jul 30, 2023 9:45 pm  

Brick with eyes wrote:

As I said back in September .

It looks like these are the two Powell wanted to drop but can’t.
Big lumps can win games . Big useless lumps can’t

Powell should be sacked , if only for signing these two

But iirc, most fans were pleased we'd got 2 big units after a year of struggling in the forwards (ironically including Holmes, Hughes and Mulhearn - the 1st two came in for massive criticism from fans).

Kasiano in particular was seen as an impact prop but one with more than a little skill.

I thought we'd got 2 too many props so even losing Mikaele and Maguire we weren't exactly light IF Powell got them playing in the right way.
Vaughan, Bullock, Philbin, Kasiano, Dudson, Harrison plus Green.
On paper thats not bad.

Re: Kasiano and Dudson : Sun Aug 06, 2023 9:56 pm  

Harrison back for the Leeds game so for the love of sanity drop Dudson.

Re: Kasiano and Dudson : Mon Aug 07, 2023 8:29 am  

karetaker wrote:

Harrison back for the Leeds game so for the love of sanity drop Dudson.

I assume Bullock will be back too if he’s over his thumb injury. Likely we’ll revert to Mikaele starting, Crowther did ok for me so

Vaughan
Clark
Mikaele
Currie
Nicholson
Crowther

Walker
Philbin
Harrison / Bullock
Kasiano

I would have said Kasiano would be dropped for Bullock, but Chambers talked him up a bit after the game for his effort stopping the Catalan try in the corner at the end. Chambers is big on that, so I guess he’ll stay in. I don’t think with Kasiano it’s a lack of effort, some stupid play and far too many errors, Dudson on the other hand just doesn’t seem to want to put a shift in.

Re: Kasiano and Dudson : Mon Aug 07, 2023 8:37 am  

fez1 wrote:

But iirc, most fans were pleased we'd got 2 big units after a year of struggling in the forwards (ironically including Holmes, Hughes and Mulhearn - the 1st two came in for massive criticism from fans).

Kasiano in particular was seen as an impact prop but one with more than a little skill.

I thought we'd got 2 too many props so even losing Mikaele and Maguire we weren't exactly light IF Powell got them playing in the right way.
Vaughan, Bullock, Philbin, Kasiano, Dudson, Harrison plus Green.
On paper thats not bad.

I had no issues with us letting Holmes and Hughes go, Mulhearn however I thought was good enough to keep but I understand (from posts on here!) that we didn’t offer a good enough deal.
I agree with your comments on the perceived strength of the pack though.
What amazes me is that players who were devoid of confidence last season are playing with vim and verve at Leigh whereas totally new players to our team are devoid of confidence, I can’t see how this is anything other than a coaching issue.

[Winslade's Offload]

Re: Kasiano and Dudson : Mon Aug 07, 2023 8:58 am  

Captain Hook wrote:

I had no issues with us letting Holmes and Hughes go, Mulhearn however I thought was good enough to keep but I understand (from posts on here!) that we didn’t offer a good enough deal.
I agree with your comments on the perceived strength of the pack though.
What amazes me is that players who were devoid of confidence last season are playing with vim and verve at Leigh whereas totally new players to our team are devoid of confidence, I can’t see how this is anything other than a coaching issue.

I would personally say it's 3/5 coaching, 2/5 recruiting aging journeymen. Sometimes you are lucky, but by and large they have no buy in to the club. I would loan Dudson, who must surely be nicknamed 'dud' to Swinton. That's the standard at which he seems comfortable.

Re: Kasiano and Dudson : Mon Aug 07, 2023 8:59 am  

I'm really not sure of the negativity towards Kasiano... I can see errors in his game but there is effort , skill and go forward when on it ... Dudson did ok at Catalans but for whatever reason is either unwilling or unable to step up and will be the first casualty of a post season cull .. having said that people who were poor and let go last year appear to have stepped up a gear with a different voice in their ears so who knows

Re: Kasiano and Dudson : Mon Aug 07, 2023 9:00 am  

Powell basically replaced Mulhern with Dudson. There are quite a few other of his recruitment calamities that Mr Burgess is going to have to deal with. I hope we haven't told him about the Clark/Dwyer thing.

[Uncle Rico]

Re: Kasiano and Dudson : Mon Aug 07, 2023 10:15 am  

Winslade's Offload wrote:

I would personally say it's 3/5 coaching, 2/5 recruiting aging journeymen. Sometimes you are lucky, but by and large they have no buy in to the club. I would loan Dudson, who must surely be nicknamed 'dud' to Swinton. That's the standard at which he seems comfortable.

And what have Swinton ever done to you? Pack him off to Widnes (win/win)