Re: TV games (not Wire) : Sat Sep 17, 2022 2:14 pm  

morrisseyisawire wrote:

Penalty try all day long, Kendall totally bottled it

Agreed, I can't see how it wasn't given when a yellow card was issued. Saints were the more deserving team over 80 minutes but if that was given it could have been different.

A good advert for rugby league though and I've enjoyed channel 4s coverage again.

Re: TV games (not Wire) : Sat Sep 17, 2022 4:27 pm  

CW8 wrote:

Agreed, I can't see how it wasvbt given when a yellow card was issued. Saints were the more deserving team over 80 minutes but if that was given it could have been different.

A good advert for rugby league though and ivef enjoyed channel 4s coverage again.

Penalty try rules aren't what they used to be. They have to be certain the player would have scored. Can you ever be certain when the ball is bouncing towards the dead ball line like that? Even if you say he would definitely have got there, you can't say he would have grounded it without knocking on. It's just never given these days. The only way it could be is if the ball settled to a stop on the floor in the field of play. If you think that's a penalty try, show me one that has been given in the last 5 years. It was definitely the right call.

Now whether the rule should be changed to benefit the attacker in that situation rather than the cynicism of the defender is another matter entirely, but in the current rules you're never getting that as a penalty try.

Re: TV games (not Wire) : Sat Sep 17, 2022 4:45 pm  

Saddened! wrote:

Penalty try rules aren't what they used to be. They have to be certain the player would have scored. Can you ever be certain when the ball is bouncing towards the dead ball line like that? Even if you say he would definitely have got there, you can't say he would have grounded it without knocking.

Certainty? Death and taxes. Anything else is in the lap of the gods, but there's a strong likelihood he would have scored it.

Sorry - three certainties. Death, taxes and your codface chairman having a seizure if you get denied a penalty try nexr week and lose.

Re: TV games (not Wire) : Sat Sep 17, 2022 4:53 pm  

morrisseyisawire wrote:

Certainty? Death and taxes. Anything else is in the lap of the gods, but there's a strong likelihood he would have scored it.

Which isn't enough to give a penalty try. Had the ball stopped before going out, it'd be given.

Re: TV games (not Wire) : Sat Sep 17, 2022 5:55 pm  

Mind you imagine Salford v Leeds in Final. Two best teams this year are Saints and Wigan.

Re: TV games (not Wire) : Sat Sep 17, 2022 6:02 pm  

Saddened! wrote:

Which isn't enough to give a penalty try. Had the ball stopped before going out, it'd be given.

I think the rules should be changed then, I'd definitely go benefit of the doubt to the fouled player. The rules at the minute encourage those sort of offences rather than deter them, surely?

Let's think of it this way, if that offence was the other way around today and saints then lost, redvee would be in total meltdown and would likely crash for at least a week.

Re: TV games (not Wire) : Sat Sep 17, 2022 6:19 pm  

CW8 wrote:

I think the rules should be changed then, I'd definitely go benefit of the doubt to the fouled player. The rules at the minute encourage those sort of offences rather than deter them, surely?

Let's think of it this way, if that offence was the other way around today and saints then lost, redvee would be in total meltdown and would likely crash for at least a week.

It would be anyway, no matter how we lose. I think there's a good chance of that next week too, depending on how much damage the disciplinary committee do to an already decimated team. We were awful today by our standards.

I agree on changing the rules. It should be 'most likely score' rather 'certain'.

Re: TV games (not Wire) : Sat Sep 17, 2022 6:26 pm  

Saddened! wrote:

It would be anyway, no matter how we lose. I think there's a good chance of that next week too, depending on how much damage the disciplinary committee do to an already decimated team. We were awful today by our standards.

I agree on changing the rules. It should be 'most likely score' rather 'certain'.

Thats a fair point, it would crash regardless of how the defeat came about.

I think lomax's short kicking game will see you home, much like it did today. Regardless of the penalty try saints were still deserving winners today.

Re: TV games (not Wire) : Sat Sep 17, 2022 7:06 pm  

No new name on the GF this season

Re: TV games (not Wire) : Sat Sep 17, 2022 8:10 pm  

Wires71 wrote:

No new name on the GF this season

Maybe next year.

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