Re: Disgraceful : Sun Oct 07, 2012 3:08 pm  

This thread has come up (on here and redvee) after most of the GFs that we've been in recently; there is clearly a problem.

Kick off time needs to be brought forward and better segregation...I don't understand why the RFL sell tickets behind the sticks as this should just be for the fans that have been assigned that end...keep the neutrals together in the corners/sides to avoid this from happening.

We pride ourselves on being a family sport, which it is, but there is a clear problem when it comes to finals and we need to police it in a different manner. We don't need lines of stewards separating fans, but the RFL just need to sell tickets in a better way.

If that doesn't fix the problem then the last resort would be to stop booze being sold in the ground.

Re: Disgraceful : Sun Oct 07, 2012 3:25 pm  

I was quite astonished by the simmering air of beer fuelled menace in Sam Platts before the game and the western edge of the North stand during the game. Full of people who had no interest in the game and were seemingly there to goad whoever was in earshot. I am not a shrinking violet but it still came as a bit of a shock, never seen anything like it.

Like the people above I will not buy tickets from the RFL again and will think twice about taking the wife and kids.

Re: Disgraceful : Sun Oct 07, 2012 3:26 pm  

Albion wrote:

This thread has come up (on here and redvee) after most of the GFs that we've been in recently; there is clearly a problem.

Kick off time needs to be brought forward and better segregation...I don't understand why the RFL sell tickets behind the sticks as this should just be for the fans that have been assigned that end...keep the neutrals together in the corners/sides to avoid this from happening.

We pride ourselves on being a family sport, which it is, but there is a clear problem when it comes to finals and we need to police it in a different manner. We don't need lines of stewards separating fans, but the RFL just need to sell tickets in a better way.

If that doesn't fix the problem then the last resort would be to stop booze being sold in the ground.

That would only work if there was a very very strict policy of not allowing anyone who is already drunk into the ground. But then you would have thousands upon thousands trying to get in with minutes to go (having waited in the pub 'til the last possible moment) and police or stewards having to decide on a case by case basis who's drunk or who isn't. Some may get turned away after just a couple of beers because they smell of alcohol whilst others get in because that particular steward is unable, or unwilling to say no.

I am still so angry that, win lose or draw, last night should have been the highlight of 35 years of following the Wire, but instead I felt incredibley uncomfortable and exposed and I hated almost every moment inside the stadium from 15 minutes or so before kickoff until I got out.

Re: Disgraceful : Sun Oct 07, 2012 3:29 pm  

btw lots of people around us openly drinking and smoking in their seats. Again none of them were wearing colours and some started off 'supporting' Warrington then changed when leeds went in front. Mind there were plenty of low rent Warrington supporters around as well, makes me cringe sometimes that I am from the same town.

Re: Disgraceful : Sun Oct 07, 2012 3:41 pm  

It still blows my mind that there is no alcohol on the terraces at OT, yet it can still be purchased before the game and at half-time. How is 'forcing' people to blitz a beer or two in a few minutes more preferable than allowing them to drink it over a 40 minute period?

I'm not sure how to effectively enforce a 'no drunks to be allowed admission' fairly, but I don't think alcohol should be sold at games.

I saw trouble in the Leeds end prior to kick-off and in the Warrington end afterwards. The trouble in the Warrington end saw a guy in no colours kicking the living feces out of another guy while he was down, until Warrington fans (who I presume knew the victim) noticed and stepped in (this had occurred as a result of some verbals and shirt grabbing).

Re: Disgraceful : Sun Oct 07, 2012 4:01 pm  

jonny the leyther wrote:

Sorry, but we go the GF as neutrals every year and last night was the only time that i've genuinly seen proper trouble, I don't think these people are true Warrington or RL fans, just seems that the Warrington 'floating support' who turn up to big games are total scroats.

I think you must be very fortunate then. My friend had to leave early when Wigan were there a couple of years ago due to abuse to her 2 Children who were in Warrington tops, & lots of trouble around them. She went on a coach & had to get home by train & taxi. Wouldn't go this year due to that experience.

Re: Disgraceful : Sun Oct 07, 2012 4:07 pm  

it was my first visit to o-t and maybe my last,the atmosphere was really nasty at times,unlike wembley,went into a pub nr the ground full of leeds fans who though it was hilarious to push and shove me at the bar and tried to rip my wire top off whilst singing w@nky wire in my face,having left the pub had to endure more leeds idiots on the way to the ground,inside the ground was just as bad ,where i was at,full of knobheads, cept for a few saints fans who i had a good banter with and outside the ground waiting for my coach yet more abuse and leeds fans offering me out and spitting on me,i would not mind but they were middle aged and there women were just as bad! we all have our bad fans, but leeds fans are,-->> , imo ,the worst ive encountered, like i say,its just my own personal opinion,it just spoilt what should have been an enjoyable and memorable day.

Re: Disgraceful : Sun Oct 07, 2012 4:08 pm  

All

First of all congratulations to Leeds on winning the game. I thought you deserved it on the night. Now, the thread. There are a lot of people commenting on the alcohol consumption of certain "idiots" as a person who also goes to army v navy games I think the banning of alcohol would be a bad idea. At these games most are well oiled before the game even thinks about starting. Would this ban affect us? May be, maybe not. Policing of these games is always well done with the sale of beer restricted. I think the RFL should look to this as an option and probably go to this day as well. Yes I know what most of you are thinking but I am a staunch wires fan and have held a season ticket since The formation of the wolf pack back in the 1990's hopefully the Army v Navy games will become a league spetical as apposed to an RFU one.

Re: Disgraceful : Sun Oct 07, 2012 4:11 pm  

WireFanatic III wrote:

He's a Widnes fan, what would you expect. They are all clasless ******* who like to live in the past but are scared to embrace the future, probably because their team is utter dog turd.

Like some of you wire lot too.Hey I got a few bites and that is worth a celebration.Stop winking gay boy

Re: Disgraceful : Sun Oct 07, 2012 4:13 pm  

OFFTHECUFF wrote:

Like some of you wire lot too.Hey I got a few bites and that is worth a celebration.

Is your 'off the cuff' name a reference to the fact that you are clearly an utter w**ker?