Re: Top 4 : Mon Jul 20, 2015 6:15 pm  

Totally agree with what's been said earlier that it's our own fault that we find ourselves in this position. However we are going to have the situation every season where nearly half of the teams in the top 8 have virtually no chance of getting into the top 4. I can you imagine the crowds dropping off for the last few games. "every minute counts" well possibly not our last 3 games!

I almost find myself wishing we finished in the bottom 4 for some cracking life or death games against Widnes, Leigh, Bradford, HKR, Salford etc.

How about at the end of the regular season, the points are wiped clean and 1st place starts off on 8 points, 2nd on 6, 3rd on 4, 4th on 2. The rest on zero. Or perhaps 3 points for a win by 12 points or more.

Re: Top 4 : Mon Jul 20, 2015 6:39 pm  

Wire may as well put all their eggs in one basket and concentrate on the Challenge Cup were you have more than a realistic chance.

Getting to, and winning, the Grand Final is well out of reach.

Next season will have to be 'your year' instead.

Re: Top 4 : Mon Jul 20, 2015 6:48 pm  

Quite possibly not FB but I never really looked into. I gave the format time like everyone else. It's vela now that it is flawed. Keep the 5,6,7 and 8th in with a shout and the play off is still alive for almost every game matters. The elite 4 trying to avoid 4th spot and the bottom half scrambling to stay alive at 5th.

This idea is not an excuse to cut ourself back in because of our failings, I totally blame ourselves for not making the 4, but that doesn't take away the fact that every season there after there is always going to be 4 that miss out on the elite unless it's addressed.

Re: Top 4 : Mon Jul 20, 2015 7:19 pm  

rubber duckie wrote:

Quite possibly not FB but I never really looked into. I gave the format time like everyone else. It's vela now that it is flawed. Keep the 5,6,7 and 8th in with a shout and the play off is still alive for almost every game matters. The elite 4 trying to avoid 4th spot and the bottom half scrambling to stay alive at 5th.

This idea is not an excuse to cut ourself back in because of our failings, I totally blame ourselves for not making the 4, but that doesn't take away the fact that every season there after there is always going to be 4 that miss out on the elite unless it's addressed.

That is exactly why Leeds ,Saints & Wigan have gone all out to finish in the best positions & why Cas & Huddersfield have had the brass neck to finish higher than us in the league. They all read & understood the new rules.

I do think the best way to restore some competition in the 8 though is to scrap all the points after next weekends fixtures ,pay the league leaders, & a straight knock out 1v 8 etc with no second chances.

Re: Top 4 : Mon Jul 20, 2015 7:22 pm  

That is then the Old Premiership format.
I've no problem with that.

Re: Top 4 : Mon Jul 20, 2015 7:29 pm  

Thought it sounded familiar, sometimes the old ones are the best.

Re: Top 4 : Mon Jul 20, 2015 8:17 pm  

rubber duckie wrote:

there is always going to be 4 that miss out on the elite

elite noun a select group that is superior in terms of ability or qualities to the rest of a group

How many teams should be in the 'elite' though???

The best four teams should be in the play-offs, if teams are too far behind before the split, which leads to 'meaningless' matches after it, so be it. Wire will finish with either a 12-11 or 11-12 record - if they can make up the points difference to the top 4 in the remaining games, fair enough, if they can't, well, that's tough tits, frankly.

Re: Top 4 : Mon Jul 20, 2015 8:45 pm  

Thanks for the English lesson.
I differ in opinion to the format, but I respect your stance.