Re: New Coach : Mon Aug 07, 2023 8:39 pm  

AppleyBridgeWire wrote:

Wayne Bennett had zero success as a coach once. You’ve come out with a lot of negatives. Again I ask you for one positive - if not Sam then who?

How is pulling a name out of my backside (much like Middleton and co. Have done here), that will forever remain an unfulfilled notion, a positive? I refuse to. Again, its not my job. I'm not paid to come up with any kind of solution. I give my opinion as a fan on what the club ACTUALLY do. The problem here is the confidence in the club to get anything correct has been eroded away for a decade. They have consistently got it wrong every step of the way, so why on earth the confidence from anyone now? Its just blind faith and I don't subscribe to that.

Re: New Coach : Mon Aug 07, 2023 8:45 pm  

Dita's Slot Meter wrote:

To put it politely, you don't sound like a supporter, you sound like someone almost hoping for failure, simply so you can come on here and say you told us so.

You provide zero alternatives, you just provide obvious negatives.

To be honest, for your own mental health, you're probably better advised to find another team or sport to follow, because your constant negativity won't be doing you any good in the long run.

Where's the reason to believe? What have the club done in the past 10 years, that has given you this faith in the club, board, players, coach, to succeed? To get it right? You can't argue with me that there is any. You were still defending Powell 5 games ago, despite your efforts to deny it. So you're clearly going to be content with whatever drivel comes our way. My mood is neither here nor there just as those believers are also in reality not actually sitting in the clouds. All i see it as is, you guys are still at the point of expecting we might get it right this time, and I'm past it. And will watch on as such until proven wrong.

Re: New Coach : Mon Aug 07, 2023 8:48 pm  

Just reading through the last few pages and having a little chuckle to myself.
I will admit Steve McNamara was my no1 choice as mentioned previously.
I will back Burgess and hopefully he will be a success.
What makes me smile the fans who are dishing the appointment back at the beginning of this thread were backing Michael Monaghan.
Say no more.

Re: New Coach : Mon Aug 07, 2023 8:50 pm  

WireWireWire wrote:

Where's the reason to believe? What have the club done in the past 10 years, that has given you this faith in the club, board, players, coach, to succeed? To get it right? You can't argue with me that there is any. You were still defending Powell 5 games ago, despite your efforts to deny it. So you're clearly going to be content with whatever drivel comes our way. My mood is neither here nor there just as those believers are also in reality not actually sitting in the clouds. All i see it as is, you guys are still at the point of expecting we might get it right this time, and I'm past it. And will watch on as such until proven wrong.

Like I said, you aren't a supporter. You have given up, which is fair enough - You just spout negativity and expect failure, which is a desperately sad mindset over something relatively trivial like following a sports team.

The whole essence of supporting a team is to follow through thick and thin and to give support even when it seems hopeless.

Your whining does make you come across like an entitled child.

Re: New Coach : Mon Aug 07, 2023 8:51 pm  

WireWireWire wrote:

Powell came with one LLS in about 18 years of coaching lol. Proof is in the pudding, and he was obviously a pudding. Don't try and make out that Powell was ever a good appointment and that Sam also is because he has zero experience. What we need is a coach with experience WINNING. As a coach.

We don't need a coach who has won with somebody else, we need a coach that will win with us. Nobody can know whether any appointment is good or bad until we can look back retrospectively and assess the squad performances. This feels like a huge freshen up from what we have been through recently. Powells Wire was far too easy to work out and play against, let's hope that the new regime will be much better.

Re: New Coach : Mon Aug 07, 2023 8:58 pm  

NothingBurger
Longy
Gleason

The rehab unit at the Halliwell Jones Medical Centre are gonna be busy
Some of you lot are gonna lose your appointments

Re: New Coach : Mon Aug 07, 2023 8:58 pm  

lefty goldblatt wrote:

I read the BBC one,
To read the same story on 10 different sites is as pointless as playing Mata'utia

I think if you read the guardian first then you would be right but given you didn't and therefore didn't het the whole picture, reading it twice would have been quite useful, playing mata'utia is totally pointless.

Re: New Coach : Mon Aug 07, 2023 9:02 pm  

So seems to be differing opinions regarding whether it’s Long or Gleeson or both. Some saying Long to Cas but that would be insane that would be a backwards step from Featherstone.

[Uncle Rico]

Re: New Coach : Mon Aug 07, 2023 9:03 pm  

Sparky1967 wrote:

Just reading through the last few pages and having a little chuckle to myself.
I will admit Steve McNamara was my no1 choice as mentioned previously.
I will back Burgess and hopefully he will be a success.
What makes me smile the fans who are dishing the appointment back at the beginning of this thread were backing Michael Monaghan.
Say no more.

Try and answer this would you have supported the appointment of McNamara as our coach following his first stint at Bradford's academy, or his stint as Bradford's Head Coach, or at the end of the McBanana years with England, or now his Catalans team are looking like the real SL deal?

I'm not saying your choice is wrong BTW but it does illustrate that giving a coach their head and a chance with a big job isn't straightforward

Re: New Coach : Mon Aug 07, 2023 9:08 pm  

The issue with this appointment isn't that he is a first time head coach. Holbrook, Maguire, Tony Smith were all assistants in the NRL and came here and did well. Going back further, Trent Robinson, Matthew Elliot and Shaun McRae.

The issue is that he comes with the kind of baggage that would be screaming red flags if he was a player. Loads of driving offences, fined by the NRL for taking drugs and threatening another player. You need the coach to have a higher level of character and reliability, like Holbrook, Maguire and those guys do.

This appointment feels like a bit of a gimmick like you get football clubs appointing guys like Di Canio or Lee Bowyer or Joey Barton as manager.

I also don't want Gleeson here as coach. Whilst I liked him as a player, he was part of the culture problem that hampered us in the Cullen era and everybody generally accepts that it was right for TS to move him on (although he did win Super League with Wigan). If we have Burgess and Long or Long/Gleeson it doesn't feel like we're going to sort out the culture does it.