Re: New Coach : Mon Aug 07, 2023 9:22 pm  

sally cinnamon wrote:

The issue with this appointment isn't that he is a first time head coach. Holbrook, Maguire, Tony Smith were all assistants in the NRL and came here and did well. Going back further, Trent Robinson, Matthew Elliot and Shaun McRae.

The issue is that he comes with the kind of baggage that would be screaming red flags if he was a player. Loads of driving offences, fined by the NRL for taking drugs and threatening another player. You need the coach to have a higher level of character and reliability, like Holbrook, Maguire and those guys do.

This appointment feels like a bit of a gimmick like you get football clubs appointing guys like Di Canio or Lee Bowyer or Joey Barton as manager.

I also don't want Gleeson here as coach. Whilst I liked him as a player, he was part of the culture problem that hampered us in the Cullen era and everybody generally accepts that it was right for TS to move him on (although he did win Super League with Wigan). If we have Burgess and Long or Long/Gleeson it doesn't feel like we're going to sort out the culture does it.

We've ALWAYS been known as a drinking club, and to have those 2 (potentially) coming here, is a recipe for disaster. Wasn't Long referred to as the George Best of St Helens. I've heard some tales regarding Gleeson, too.
A couple of party animals. Great.

Burgess' charge sheet doesn't make pretty reading, either. He's here, now. I'm not overly impressed, but we've got him.

Good luck. He (and us) will need it.

Re: New Coach : Mon Aug 07, 2023 9:23 pm  

On reflection I am delighted with this appointment. This guys an absolute winner. When I read the rest of the clubs laughing and mocking the appointment it only strengthens my belief.

Re: New Coach : Mon Aug 07, 2023 9:28 pm  

In the immediate future, is understood the club are set to bring in an additional coach to assist Chambers and Richard Marshall, who will remain as assistant coach when Burgess takes over, for the rest of the year.

A second assistant coaching appointment is set to be announced in due course, the club have said.

Reading that does that mean Marshall will not be part of the first team coaching at the end of the year.

Re: New Coach : Mon Aug 07, 2023 9:33 pm  

karetaker wrote:

In the immediate future, is understood the club are set to bring in an additional coach to assist Chambers and Richard Marshall, who will remain as assistant coach when Burgess takes over, for the rest of the year.

A second assistant coaching appointment is set to be announced in due course, the club have said.

Reading that does that mean Marshall will not be part of the first team coaching at the end of the year.

The back-rower, who also won five Test caps for England in union during an ill-fated spell with Premiership side Bath, will have ex-Salford and Halifax boss Richard Marshall as an assistant



That was copied from the BBC site

Re: New Coach : Mon Aug 07, 2023 9:35 pm  

The press release says "Richard Marshall will remain as assistant coach with a further update about a second assistant to be announced in due course"

Burgess, long/gleeson and marshall sounds good to me. I'd prefer long because on the pitch he was one of the best at organising an attack and controlling field position that I've ever seen.

Re: New Coach : Mon Aug 07, 2023 9:46 pm  

CW8 wrote:

I'd prefer long because on the pitch he was one of the best at organising an attack and controlling field position that I've ever seen.

So was Briers.
But when he was an assistant to Steve Whatsisname, our rugby was, at best, turgid

Re: New Coach : Mon Aug 07, 2023 9:49 pm  

CW8 wrote:

The press release says "Richard Marshall will remain as assistant coach with a further update about a second assistant to be announced in due course"

Burgess, long/gleeson and marshall sounds good to me. I'd prefer long because on the pitch he was one of the best at organising an attack and controlling field position that I've ever seen.

Yeh didn’t we just hate that in his playing days Still preferred Briers but Long maybe had a better team around him in his time.

Re: New Coach : Mon Aug 07, 2023 9:51 pm  

Longs manager said he's not coming here, and said they've had no contact with us.

Re: New Coach : Mon Aug 07, 2023 9:51 pm  

lefty goldblatt wrote:

So was Briers.
But when he was an assistant to Steve Whatsisname, our rugby was, at best, turgid

I was a big critic of Briers in his time with Price. But when he moved to Wigan and now over in the NRL I feel like Price handcuffed him and was bent on defensive structures more.

Re: New Coach : Mon Aug 07, 2023 9:52 pm  

Or thane wrote:

Longs manager said he's not coming here, and said they've had no contact with us.

Did he say why he got sacked then