Re: New Coach : Mon Aug 07, 2023 9:56 pm  

karetaker wrote:

Did he say why he got sacked then

No but i'd say he has something lined up elsewhere as Sacking him in the position they are in is weird.
I'm happy with Burgess as he's no better or worse on paper than anyone else who is ACTUALLY available. And he might attract some players to us, all the best to him and we'll see how he does, only time will tell

Re: New Coach : Mon Aug 07, 2023 9:57 pm  

lefty goldblatt wrote:

So was Briers.
But when he was an assistant to Steve Whatsisname, our rugby was, at best, turgid

Briers is doing just fine now by all accounts, he was well thought of at Wigan last season as well. Let's face it the best assistant coach in the world wouldn't look at all capable if they were working under a poor head coach. I don't judge marshall over what he did with Powell because the head coach was a poor fit for the club and squad. He did well under Holbrook and Smith though and has good experience working with really well functioning teams from those days.

Re: New Coach : Mon Aug 07, 2023 10:20 pm  

While he is still in Aus hopefully he can find us some centres.

Re: New Coach : Mon Aug 07, 2023 10:48 pm  

Welcome Sam….

Don’t listen to the moaners on here, use your remaining time in Australia to recruit a couple of centres and a hooker (bin the Dwyer deal off and release Dufty).

If our lazy players continue to shy away from the hard work, like they have for the last 5 years, then you have my permission to use a bit of tough love and that 6’5” frame of yours…..

Good Luck

Re: New Coach : Mon Aug 07, 2023 10:53 pm  

I was a bit baffled when I heard Burgess mentioned.
One thing that is for certain though is that there will be young men at the club that will give it their all to be the best that they can be. There will be players like Thomas, Green etc etc will be thinking what do I have to do to get into that team. There will be players like Nicholson, Walker, Thewlis, Wrench, Ashton that have looked up to him watching him when they were kids with a broken cheekbone in that grand final. Then there is probably players like Currie and Williams that have been in an England camp with him.
You would hope that we would rarely have to question effort. The unknown is the technical ability
Looking forward to another ride on the rollercoaster.

Re: New Coach : Mon Aug 07, 2023 11:53 pm  

lefty goldblatt wrote:

So was Briers.
But when he was an assistant to Steve Whatsisname, our rugby was, at best, turgid

Next coaching duo: Garry Schofield with Andy Gregory as his assistant. Imagine the quality of rugby we would play with them.

Or if we want a more recent ex player, with the standing in the game who would be able to command huge respect from every body in the dressing room - Keiron Cunningham.

Re: New Coach : Tue Aug 08, 2023 12:00 am  

I'm sorry, but I'm totally skeptical about this appointment. Remember the last assistant coach we recruited from the NRL because apparently he was ripping it up? He won us a challenge cup and knocked saints out the playoffs yet a lot of us still talk about his tenure like it was the first coming of (not Robert) Powell! And now we've recruited another NRL assistant, one with even less experience than the last one. And why? Because he was a great player and is doing a decent job thus far?

It's a huge punt/gamble, one that attracts a lot of attention from beyond RL journalism and puts us and Burgess under the microscope with other fans, pundits and a large section of our own supporters. It could end in a terrible mess and once again we could be the laughing stock of the sport. We're desperate for success, let's be honest. Now we've signed up to be the place Sam Burgess cuts his teeth. An experiment, a proving ground.

I hope his mum is still fit, cus, honestly, I can't find another positive about this move. I dunno, maybe bookmark this post until October 2024 and rub it in my face, but I don't see it happening.

Re: New Coach : Tue Aug 08, 2023 6:09 am  

Whilst I understand some of the scepticism regarding the appointment, I can’t help but think now it’s been made he should be given the opportunity to be successful before people stick the boot in. Everyone has to start their coaching career somewhere, and in terms of other viable options who was available to us?

Regarding the past misdemeanours, with Long and Gleeson we’re talking about things that happened 10 or more years ago, can’t people regret what they did when they were younger? Or learn from their mistakes?

Seems like the club is trying to sort out the structure with Chambers and Marshall remaining beyond this season, both know the club inside out and from top to bottom, knowledge of the current squad and the youth set up, and both well respected amongst fans and in the game in general, it seems like a positive step to me?

Re: New Coach : Tue Aug 08, 2023 6:09 am  

Whilst I understand some of the scepticism regarding the appointment, I can’t help but think now it’s been made he should be given the opportunity to be successful before people stick the boot in. Everyone has to start their coaching career somewhere, and in terms of other viable options who was available to us?

Regarding the past misdemeanours, with Long and Gleeson we’re talking about things that happened 10 or more years ago, can’t people regret what they did when they were younger? Or learn from their mistakes?

Seems like the club is trying to sort out the structure with Chambers and Marshall remaining beyond this season, both know the club inside out and from top to bottom, knowledge of the current squad and the youth set up, and both well respected amongst fans and in the game in general, it seems like a positive step to me?

Re: New Coach : Tue Aug 08, 2023 6:13 am  

sally cinnamon wrote:

Or if we want a more recent ex player, with the standing in the game who would be able to command huge respect from every body in the dressing room - Keiron Cunningham.

Nonsense. Burgess is levels above Cunningham. If you want to compare someone with similar standing to Burgess in the game, then it's Hanley, and he did ok.