Re: New Coach : Tue Aug 08, 2023 1:04 pm  

Lord Tony Smith wrote:

Gleeson in as assistant this year but he’s going to USA next year to coach so won’t be part of Burgess’ coaching team.

Madame Boyd reporting he is back.

Re: New Coach : Tue Aug 08, 2023 1:09 pm  

In the best case scenario he does well and pee's off to a HC role in the NRL in a couple years. So do we not want to be great for the next decade? Seems we're happy to be just good for 2. Short sighted appointment.

Re: New Coach : Tue Aug 08, 2023 1:42 pm  

WireWireWire wrote:

In the best case scenario he does well and pee's off to a HC role in the NRL in a couple years. So do we not want to be great for the next decade? Seems we're happy to be just good for 2. Short sighted appointment.

That 'risk' applies to anyone we recruit from Aus. Enjoy his appointment, it will raise our profile at the very least... hopefully it will lead to success on the pitch. If it does then enjoy that and we'll be in a better position to attract another good coach if we have to.

Re: New Coach : Tue Aug 08, 2023 1:49 pm  

Oxford Exile wrote:

On a related note, the whole circus feels ripe for a fly-on-the-wall documentary following his progress with Warrington. Could happen!

Kerry Katona has just signed up two screenwriters to make a Netflix biopic of her life. So, stranger things 'n' all...

Come to think of it, this club isn't that different to Kerry Katona. Starts off with potential and everyone gets a bit excited over the flashy bits, followed by getting high a few times, then crashing and burning after the faintest whiff of a comeback. Now a dog-eared mess that's spent all its money on trashy bling.

Whoever fixes Kerry's career is the right person to fix us.

Re: New Coach : Tue Aug 08, 2023 1:54 pm  

Oxford Exile wrote:

That 'risk' applies to anyone we recruit from Aus. Enjoy his appointment, it will raise our profile at the very least... hopefully it will lead to success on the pitch. If it does then enjoy that and we'll be in a better position to attract another good coach if we have to.

We don't need our profile raised. We already have enough eyes laughing at us. We already ARE the circus. Burgess will make that worse, not go away. For such a born winner he only won one GF in his entire playing career. Half of his highlight reels are doing things that will get our players sat in the stands for a good few games these days. Slamming Sam, oy vey.

Re: New Coach : Tue Aug 08, 2023 2:00 pm  

Oxford Exile wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe2ipJbXP7U interesting video on his philosophy for high performance. Well...that certainly gave me food for thought. I was not overly chuffed with the club's decision, but having watched that I feel quite excited now. He certainly has a defined line between friends and the job at hand. There's nothing more important than the game to him, plus by the sounds of it, if you're not putting it in you aint playing. Good Lad!!! Best start saving up for next year's season ticket

Oxford Exile wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe2ipJbXP7U interesting video on his philosophy for high performance. Well...that certainly gave me food for thought. I was not overly chuffed with the club's decision, but having watched that I feel quite excited now. He certainly has a defined line between friends and the job at hand. There's nothing more important than the game to him, plus by the sounds of it, if you're not putting it in you aint playing. Good Lad!!! Best start saving up for next year's season ticket

Re: New Coach : Tue Aug 08, 2023 2:01 pm  

WireWireWire wrote:

Half of his highlight reels are doing things that will get our players sat in the stands for a good few games these days.

This is sad but true. I used to love that "gladiatorial' aspect about our game. Now sadly gone.

Re: New Coach : Tue Aug 08, 2023 2:09 pm  

Jack Pepsi wrote:

Best start saving up for next year's season ticket

Whoever said there was a sucker born every minute was right. I'm with the guy above who says we're already the circus, this signing does nothing to diminish that and sets us up for more failure and humiliation. Just read what other clubs' fans are saying. What was wrong with keeping our powder dry and giving it a few months to see all other options? Instead we've gone for the Glamour, headline grabbing option that'll likely blow up in our faces. Good lord I hope I'm mistaken but I just can't see it. So, do we need to be patient for another two/three years to buy into and build the Burgess way? Cus I've had enough of seeing what the Powell way did to us. We shouldn't be some sort of coaching experiment. Enough.

Re: New Coach : Tue Aug 08, 2023 2:22 pm  

matt_wire wrote:

Whoever said there was a sucker born every minute was right. I'm with the guy above who says we're already the circus, this signing does nothing to diminish that and sets us up for more failure and humiliation. Just read what other clubs' fans are saying. What was wrong with keeping our powder dry and giving it a few months to see all other options? Instead we've gone for the Glamour, headline-grabbing option that'll likely blow up in our faces. Good lord I hope I'm mistaken but I just can't see it. So, do we need to be patient for another two/three years to buy into and build the Burgess way? Cus I've had enough of seeing what the Powell way did to us. We shouldn't be some sort of coaching experiment. Enough.

Matt, we all have opinions, and watching that documentary has changed mine, and am more than happy to give him a go.

I was never a big fan of Powell and nor were the players, you only had to see their faces when that behind-the-scenes documentary came out. I bet they look a dam site more attentive next time.

Sorry Matt, my glass is half full on this one

Re: New Coach : Tue Aug 08, 2023 2:23 pm  

Taking a left-field view:

During the second world war, there was a requirement to get certain missions accomplished quickly using revolutionary methods. What they did was to put together a unit of young, apparently ill-suited persons, all of whom had little experience but plenty of bad history on their records.

However, what these young men did have was specific skills and the right mindset for the missions they had been tasked with. Some of which were said to be unachievable based on the standard at the time. Turns out it did work, against all odds, and they became the SAS.

Since we've tried the standard route and failed many times, I'll back the mish-mash of oddities and watch with interest. They could become folk heroes if they pull it off. Nothing to lose, especially since there are no proven alternatives on the market. If Tony Smith couldn't do it for us with that squad in '10-'13, I don't think any traditional coach on the current market could.

Who dares wins!