Re: New Coach : Tue Aug 08, 2023 2:25 pm  

matt_wire wrote:

Whoever said there was a sucker born every minute was right. I'm with the guy above who says we're already the circus, this signing does nothing to diminish that and sets us up for more failure and humiliation. Just read what other clubs' fans are saying. What was wrong with keeping our powder dry and giving it a few months to see all other options? Instead we've gone for the Glamour, headline grabbing option that'll likely blow up in our faces. Good lord I hope I'm mistaken but I just can't see it. So, do we need to be patient for another two/three years to buy into and build the Burgess way? Cus I've had enough of seeing what the Powell way did to us. We shouldn't be some sort of coaching experiment. Enough.

We're not allowed to be realists, it means our mental health is lacking apparently. People will buy into anything if someone can talk the talk. How many were ecstatic with Powell signing despite the guy only ever having one brill season in 20 years of coaching lol. Apparently we've hired a born winner, such a winner that 11 months into his current role, that team is sitting 8th in the table. Really instilled his mentality on them there hasn't he.

Re: New Coach : Tue Aug 08, 2023 2:47 pm  

WireWireWire wrote:

We're not allowed to be realists, it means our mental health is lacking apparently. People will buy into anything if someone can talk the talk. How many were ecstatic with Powell signing despite the guy only ever having one brill season in 20 years of coaching lol. Apparently we've hired a born winner, such a winner that 11 months into his current role, that team is sitting 8th in the table. Really instilled his mentality on them there hasn't he.

The alternative was a guy who choked in two semis and has just been let go from a poorly performing NRL team. And he turned us down anyway.

Since no one of any repute is likely to be available for some time, who do we go with? May as well look on the bright side. Have a watch of the two documentaries and you'll see why he may bring something different that we've been missing.

Re: New Coach : Tue Aug 08, 2023 2:56 pm  

At the end of the day it doesn't matter what we think. We don't have a say or any influence. It's quite a gamble for sure but you never know it may pay off. It may not. But one thing for sure is it will be interesting.

Re: New Coach : Tue Aug 08, 2023 2:58 pm  

WireWireWire wrote:

In the best case scenario he does well and pee's off to a HC role in the NRL in a couple years. So do we not want to be great for the next decade? Seems we're happy to be just good for 2. Short sighted appointment.

2 years was enough for Holbrook to start the 'dynasty' rolling at Stains. They've not looked back much since.

Seriously though - did you play Blakey in On the Buses?

Re: New Coach : Tue Aug 08, 2023 3:00 pm  

Anyone seen any player reactions on Social Media? The emotional response (positive and negative) from us fans is wholly predictable. I'd like to know how the senior players are feeling about the appointment.

Re: New Coach : Tue Aug 08, 2023 3:17 pm  

easyWire wrote:

Taking a left-field view:

During the second world war, there was a requirement to get certain missions accomplished quickly using revolutionary methods. What they did was to put together a unit of young, apparently ill-suited persons, all of whom had little experience but plenty of bad history on their records.

However, what these young men did have was specific skills and the right mindset for the missions they had been tasked with. Some of which were said to be unachievable based on the standard at the time. Turns out it did work, against all odds, and they became the SAS.

Since we've tried the standard route and failed many times, I'll back the mish-mash of oddities and watch with interest. They could become folk heroes if they pull it off. Nothing to lose, especially since there are no proven alternatives on the market. If Tony Smith couldn't do it for us with that squad in '10-'13, I don't think any traditional coach on the current market could.

Who dares wins!

In your first two paragraphs, if you substitute the words Second World War] for Vietnam , I had the theme tune to The A-Team going round in my head.

"AIN'T GOIN' TO NO HALLIWELL JONES, FOOL"

Re: New Coach : Tue Aug 08, 2023 3:20 pm  

lefty goldblatt wrote:

In your first two paragraphs, if you substitute the words Second World War] for Vietnam , I had the theme tune to The A-Team going round in my head.

"AIN'T GOIN' TO NO HALLIWELL JONES, FOOL"

That's why I put the SAS answer in there. I was thinking of the opening titles to the A-Team as I was writing that out

On a positive note, when did the A-Team ever lose?

Re: New Coach : Tue Aug 08, 2023 3:26 pm  

easyWire wrote:

That's why I put the SAS answer in there. I was thinking of the opening titles to the A-Team as I was writing that out

On a positive note, when did the A-Team ever lose?

With Billy "Wizz" Cowell on the wing?

NEVER

Re: New Coach : Tue Aug 08, 2023 3:55 pm  

As fans we have 2 choices - go and watch the club, whoever is the coach, and give them our support.....

....or stay at home and fume because we haven't recruited the love child of Wayne Bennett/Sean Wane (Wayne Wane??) who doesn't exist.

I'll see you at the HJ

Re: New Coach : Tue Aug 08, 2023 3:58 pm  

He sounds like a pretty determined character.
Now if his goal is to go straight back to the NRL in a head coaches role then good luck to him.
There are not many coaches that walk straight into a head coaches job in the NRL unless they have won a grand final over here.
There are only a couple I can think of over the last 20 years - Mick potter and Trent Robinson
There is a big list of Super League coaches that didn't win a grand final that went back as assistant or drifted off into obscurity (Price, Hodgson, Woolford, Morgan, etc etc.)

So if an NRL head coaches role is what he is after then he knows what he has to do. And apart from the RU experiment he has gone and done what he set out to do.
I am on board but it doesn't matter if the fans are. It matters if the players are.