Re: New Coach : Tue Aug 08, 2023 6:24 pm  

WireWireWire wrote:

I'll be happy when i'm given something to be happy about. Until then they'll recieve due response based on the previous decisioms, and this most recent one. At this point they're just throwing sh*t against the wall and BEGGING for it to stick. And What is this nonsense that demanding success means I'm a spoilt child? Will Burgess be a spoilt child when he demands success? Because one would hope thats why he's here?? Stupid assertion. Why am I not allowed to demand success? We've been promising it for 15 years but always end up finishing like wet farts.

Very rousing speech though. Good effort. Maybe we'll become the hunters next year!

Like I said, you aren't a supporter. For your own piece of mind, you probably need to find an alternative hobby like golf or fishing...

Re: New Coach : Tue Aug 08, 2023 6:49 pm  

Dita's Slot Meter wrote:

Like I said, you aren't a supporter. For your own piece of mind, you probably need to find an alternative hobby like golf or fishing...

How about no. Enjoy crowing when we're 4th in the league again and winning jaff all. I'm a supporter. I just don't support lazy, ill-thought out decisions from my hometown club.

Re: New Coach : Tue Aug 08, 2023 6:58 pm  

I'm a regular watcher of the NRL, and all the NRL shows, and all the journalists and former players say that Sam Burgess is an NRL coach in the making, speak about him in glowing terms, and how much the players in the dressing room admire him. He's not just an ex-player. He is one of the most highly-regarded young assistants in the NRL. The only downside is that the Warrington job is just a stepping stone to the Souths top job, but everyone in the NRL gushes about him. Not as a player, but as an assistant coach. Read this from today's NRL 360: https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/nrl-2023-south-sydney-rabbitohs-sam-burgess-warrington-wolves-coaching-rugby-league-news-reaction/news-story/b3f015d7762284d6eaa9462406023c51

I'm a regular watcher of the NRL, and all the NRL shows, and all the journalists and former players say that Sam Burgess is an NRL coach in the making, speak about him in glowing terms, and how much the players in the dressing room admire him. He's not just an ex-player. He is one of the most highly-regarded young assistants in the NRL. The only downside is that the Warrington job is just a stepping stone to the Souths top job, but everyone in the NRL gushes about him. Not as a player, but as an assistant coach. Read this from today's NRL 360: https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/nrl-2023-south-sydney-rabbitohs-sam-burgess-warrington-wolves-coaching-rugby-league-news-reaction/news-story/b3f015d7762284d6eaa9462406023c51

Re: New Coach : Tue Aug 08, 2023 7:13 pm  

AppleyBridgeWire wrote:

2 years was enough for Holbrook to start the 'dynasty' rolling at Stains. They've not looked back much since.

Seriously though - did you play Blakey in On the Buses?

Maguire was only at Wigan for a couple of years as well. I'm not a fan of the Burgess appointment but the argument that it would be a bad thing if he won the Grand Final and then went off to an NRL job seems like a strange thing to worry about. You're then a champion team and in a better position to attract a new coach.

Equally if Riley Dean wins Man of Steel and then Burgess takes him to Souths, not a problem for me.

Re: New Coach : Tue Aug 08, 2023 7:14 pm  

Dita's Slot Meter wrote:

Like I said, you aren't a supporter. For your own piece of mind, you probably need to find an alternative hobby like golf or fishing...

Take him Dogging next time you go

Re: New Coach : Tue Aug 08, 2023 7:23 pm  

WireWireWire wrote:

I'll be happy when i'm given something to be happy about. Until then they'll recieve due response based on the previous decisioms, and this most recent one. At this point they're just throwing sh*t against the wall and BEGGING for it to stick.

That's the problem here. You could see it with Middleton's quotes about "we need to do something different". They wanted to get Holbrook and when he turned them down they were left high and dry and had to scramble around for someone. It's like when Neil Kelly turned us down and we got Anderson and Plange.

The problem is, it's not something particularly different for Wire. Big name in the NRL with red flags. Sandow, McGuire, Inglis. Two guys with a long chequered history of off field trouble and one who was in physical decline and had had mental health challenges. In each case it was easy to see how it would end from the point we signed them. We have to stop taking shots on these type of signings. So when you appoint a coach who has a (recent) history of off field trouble it hardly sets the right benchmark from the top.

Now maybe he's reformed and will turn out to be a completely different character and clean up his act now he's out of the NRL and in Warrington. But we were banking on that when we signed Sandow and McGuire too.

Re: New Coach : Tue Aug 08, 2023 7:25 pm  

sally cinnamon wrote:

Maguire was only at Wigan for a couple of years as well. I'm not a fan of the Burgess appointment but the argument that it would be a bad thing if he won the Grand Final and then went off to an NRL job seems like a strange thing to worry about. You're then a champion team and in a better position to attract a new coach.

Equally if Riley Dean wins Man of Steel and then Burgess takes him to Souths, not a problem for me.

And if he did do well, then swan off to the NRL in 2 years... i think most of us would wish him well.

some people crying about it being a short sighted appointment.. like any SL club has a coach for much longer than a few years anyway... 2 years is a good stint.. if he is still here after 2 full seasons, it was a successful appointment.

Re: New Coach : Tue Aug 08, 2023 7:34 pm  

Jack Pepsi wrote:

Matt, we all have opinions, and watching that documentary has changed mine, and am more than happy to give him a go.

I was never a big fan of Powell and nor were the players, you only had to see their faces when that behind-the-scenes documentary came out. I bet they look a dam site more attentive next time.

Sorry Matt, my glass is half full on this one

Fair enough mate, I'm sure after another winter I'll likely be on the bandwagon come February, but right now I'm still stinging from the last two years. I'll just have to give it time I guess.

Re: New Coach : Tue Aug 08, 2023 7:42 pm  

When you think about it, Burgess has alot more to lose here than we do.

Fail here, with the backing he will receive.. and there is no NRL job.

He is going to be chomping at the bit... No complacency at all... and if that's not enough, then at least we tried.

Better than having Rowley, or some Pie in charge

Re: New Coach : Tue Aug 08, 2023 7:46 pm  

If he does the 2 years do we then go for Briers.