Re: Rumours : Mon Sep 18, 2017 3:31 pm  

Penks81 wrote:

Yep, good riddance to the pair of them, you couldn't even class them as bench warmers. More Salary Cap Leeches!

Hopefully a couple more departure announcements to come with regards to coaching staff and then the re building can well and truly commence.

Wow, in a season where there have been some "interesting" posts you win the one for being most graceless.

Re: Rumours : Mon Sep 18, 2017 3:37 pm  

Alffi_7 wrote:

I think the issue is that the likes of Leeds / Wigan & Saints don't have players like Blythe and Penny etc in their first team squads. They have young players who can come in and do a job, whilst having the potential to improve and become a first team regular. We have to sign players like Blythe and Penny (and previously Cox / Bailey / Wheeler etc) as we don't seem to have the strength in numbers of academy players able to come through and do a first team job while they wait to develop.

So yes we need these type of players in our salary cap - but only because IMO our academy isn't delivering the volume of players it should be doing. Even more important now given I think players under 21 are not included on the salary cap, if they are outside your top 25 paid players....?

Saints who signed the world beater Tommy Lee, Leeds who have signed Dwyer (not disrespecting him but defeats the bringing their youngsters through argument). Wigan obviously have a conveyor belt of talent, especially wingers, but that is nothing new.

Re: Rumours : Mon Sep 18, 2017 4:11 pm  

Captain Hook wrote:

Saints who signed the world beater Tommy Lee, Leeds who have signed Dwyer (not disrespecting him but defeats the bringing their youngsters through argument). Wigan obviously have a conveyor belt of talent, especially wingers, but that is nothing new.

Not really the same thing, Lee was given squad no. 17, so I assume Cunningham's thinking was Lee would play bench hooker. Dwyer similarly will probably be given a squad number in the mid to late teens to signify his place as bench hooker.

Penny and Blythe were signed as squad men who (injuries aside) wouldn't feature in the first 17.

Owens @ Saints and Navarrette @ Wigan would have been better examples, but both of those were still young (22) and had that potential still in them. The likes of Blythe / Penny / Bailey never had that on their side. And were nothing more than squad fillers.

Re: Rumours : Mon Sep 18, 2017 4:17 pm  

Since the arrival of a certain Mr Smith any home grown "talent" has been on a slippery slope towards the Tesco carpark ,while "quality" players have been bought in at the expense of tutoring our young players as his preference for a quick fix.Even looking at recent seasons where our playing staff has been below par, any slight mistake has led to a quick exit from the team for any young hopefuls. I believe Dec Patten's favourite karaoke song is the okey cokey. At least some of the coaches at our rivals keep faith with their young players.

Re: Rumours : Mon Sep 18, 2017 4:38 pm  

They will both get picked up probably by championship clubs.

Thing is who made the decision to release them, I reckon Smith would have retained them both.

Re: Rumours : Mon Sep 18, 2017 4:43 pm  

[quote="Superblue"]They will both get picked up probably by championship clubs.

Thing is who made the decision to release them, I reckon Smith would have retained them both.[/quote]

Leigh or Widnes then?

[Fantastic Mr Catpiss]

Re: Rumours : Mon Sep 18, 2017 5:18 pm  

Superblue wrote:

They will both get picked up probably by championship clubs.

Thing is who made the decision to release them, I reckon Smith would have retained them both.

Blythe has retired

Re: Rumours : Mon Sep 18, 2017 5:26 pm  

Once again Im amazed at the lack of empathy shown on this site. To simply say good riddance to two players who've been good clubmen and suffered injury in the process is inappropriate.

Re: Rumours : Mon Sep 18, 2017 5:53 pm  

ninearches wrote:

Since the arrival of a certain Mr Smith any home grown "talent" has been on a slippery slope towards the Tesco carpark ,while "quality" players have been bought in at the expense of tutoring our young players as his preference for a quick fix.Even looking at recent seasons where our playing staff has been below par, any slight mistake has led to a quick exit from the team for any young hopefuls. I believe Dec Patten's favourite karaoke song is the okey cokey. At least some of the coaches at our rivals keep faith with their young players.

And yet there has been plenty of criticism on here of Dec Patten. Saints have dropped both Fages and Richardson. Which of the young players that have left would you have kept?
Do we ignore the opportunities given to the Kings, Livett, Patten, Smith, Julien, even dare I say Currie?

Re: Rumours : Mon Sep 18, 2017 6:02 pm  

In Tone's 10 years how many have lasted 5 or more years? Every club can play youth players for a season or two, it's developing those into regular players that he doesn't seem to do.