: Mon Mar 23, 2009 3:30 pm  

'Hitman' Norvern Soul wrote:

So Hicks and Gleeson are the problem(s)?

No we don't have a problem, now that Penny has gone.

: Mon Mar 23, 2009 3:37 pm  

Thelonius wrote:

I apologise, the quote I should have used, and was thinking of when I posted was.


The fact still remains that this season, as a team, on average we have conceded 2.5 times as many points with Penny off the pitch as we have on it. Stats can't lie can they!

And I am fully aware what IMO means, I have some of my own, but I prefer to keep them to myself.

The stats that you have provided cant be denied but im not talking about the team defence.
Regardless of how many tries has been scored down the middle or on the right, that fact doesn't show up King or Penny as being poor, however tries scored down the left wing/centre positions do and since penny has been dropped we have conceded very few.

Put it this way, Penny played against Saints and we conceded 3 maybe 4 tries down his wing, Penny hasn't played in the other 5 games and we have only conceded 2 tries down that same wing.

: Mon Mar 23, 2009 3:42 pm  

Latchford Wolvesfan wrote:

No we don't have a problem, now that Penny has gone.

How do you explain the four games where 168 points conceeded in Penny's absence?

: Mon Mar 23, 2009 3:44 pm  

Unfortunately points count towards the result whether they are scored down the right, left or middle. The fact that we are conceding fewer points down the left means nothing when we start haemorrhaging points elsewhere.

Perhaps what has happened is that now that Penny is not there, opposition teams started targetting other parts of the defense and found even more incompetent defense than they previously did down our left!

: Mon Mar 23, 2009 3:46 pm  

getdownmonkeyman wrote:

How do you explain the four games where 168 points conceeded in Penny's absence?

Seriously pal do you not read post's properly

168 points were conceded by the team, only 2 tries were scored down the left wing, im not interested in the team defence, im trying to explain why i feel our LEFT SIDED DEFENCE has become stronger without penny.

: Mon Mar 23, 2009 3:47 pm  

Latchford Wolvesfan wrote:

Seriously pal do you not read post's properly

Do you not? Read Thelonius's immediately above yours.

: Mon Mar 23, 2009 3:48 pm  

Latchford Wolvesfan wrote:

Seriously pal do you not read post's properly

168 points were conceded by the team, only 2 tries were scored down the left wing, im not interested in the team defence, im trying to explain why i feel our LEFT SIDED DEFENCE has become stronger without penny.

I must admit, when it comes to your posts, no.

Which two tries where these then?

: Mon Mar 23, 2009 3:49 pm  

The All New Chester Wire wrote:

Do you not? Read Thelonius's immediately above yours.

I was typing whilst that was being posted, so no i missed it, can you not tell by the time of the post's

: Mon Mar 23, 2009 3:50 pm  

getdownmonkeyman wrote:

Which two tries where these then?

So if you cant be bothered to read them, why comment on them

1 try against Catalans and 1 against Wakefield.

: Mon Mar 23, 2009 3:58 pm  

Latchford Wolvesfan wrote:

No we don't have a problem, now that Penny has gone.

Pffft. Where do I start with this comment?