Re: Some home truths....this may hurt : Mon Oct 10, 2016 11:43 am  

Fantastic Mr Catpiss wrote:

I said a couple of weeks ago, I'd move on from both ratch and Russell

In that case I'd rather have Ratchford, least he is reasonably exciting to watch. Rather than winger charging in midfield driving his legs.

Re: Some home truths....this may hurt : Mon Oct 10, 2016 1:52 pm  

Losing narrowly always hurts. But Wire came so close to winning all three. Often in top class sport a coach can do no more than send his team out well prepared and then take - the poor refereeing decisions, the bounce of the ball, some good players making rare mistakes and your best players having an off day, to say nothing of the opposition actually turning up.

Tony Smith has had a great season. You can ask no more as a fan, than being in the mix at the end of the season which Wire were. I must be one of the few who think that coming top of the pile after 30 games is still an achievement to be proud of.

Thanks by the way, for making Saturday special. The atmosphere at the ground was great. The fans were a credit to the club. The team and management took defeat gracefully.

Good luck for next season. I suspect you will be very close.

Re: Some home truths....this may hurt : Mon Oct 10, 2016 2:28 pm  

If you'd have said to me...we will offer you a LLS and 2 loser medals before the season, I'd have said no way.
The squad is much better than that. It'll win the two cups and have the LLS sewn up 3 weeks early.

Re: Some home truths....this may hurt : Mon Oct 10, 2016 2:40 pm  

Think some perspective is needed here. We have been running with 2 front line props for most of the season, and not through choice. This has left a very lightweight pack and on Saturday it told. It's been a long season for Hill and Sims (look at the minutes they've been putting in). Players like King, Cox and Bailey were there as squad fillers not star signings.
It's all very well saying sign world class players to replace X and y, but they won't be on world class player wages, and there is a salary cap.
We finished 6th last season. A few of our young players have had more game time than would've been ideal but this will stand us in good stead.
Finally I don't believe for one minute that Matty Blythe is meant to be a "star" signing, but Dom Crosby is a good signing.

[Uncle Rico]

Re: Some home truths....this may hurt : Mon Oct 10, 2016 4:47 pm  

rubber duckie wrote:

If you'd have said to me...we will offer you a LLS and 2 loser medals before the season, I'd have said no way.
The squad is much better than that. It'll win the two cups and have the LLS sewn up 3 weeks early.

You might just be on your own with that one..........just for a change

Re: Some home truths....this may hurt : Mon Oct 10, 2016 5:00 pm  

mark_m wrote:

Ratchford is a conundrum wrapped in an enigma. Undoubtedly a great player but what do you actually do with him week in, week out?

If he came to Hull we would show you.Great player

Re: Some home truths....this may hurt : Mon Oct 10, 2016 5:14 pm  

rubber duckie wrote:

If you'd have said to me...we will offer you a LLS and 2 loser medals before the season, I'd have said no way.
The squad is much better than that. It'll win the two cups and have the LLS sewn up 3 weeks early.

Is it though? We've been light in the props all year, we've got no decent passing centres so our wingers struggle and are then dropped, and we've got a few players who aren't good defenders.

If we'd had Dodds, Harrison, Grix, Westwood and Currie in that GF I'd have agreed but I though Wigan had a comfortably bigger, faster, more powerful and better pack than us and that's why they deserved to win.

Re: Some home truths....this may hurt : Mon Oct 10, 2016 5:17 pm  

bonaire wrote:

If he came to Hull we would show you.Great player

Sometimes he is, sometimes he's utterly average and isn't a brilliant defender or organiser at FB. IMO he's a centre first, utility hooker/half back off the bench and a stand off before he's a full back but he plays full back most of the time.

He's the passing centre our team is crying out for, whenever he plays centre he either gets MOTM or runs whoever does close.

Re: Some home truths....this may hurt : Mon Oct 10, 2016 5:18 pm  

Captain Hook wrote:

Think some perspective is needed here. We have been running with 2 front line props for most of the season, and not through choice. This has left a very lightweight pack and on Saturday it told. It's been a long season for Hill and Sims (look at the minutes they've been putting in). Players like King, Cox and Bailey were there as squad fillers not star signings.
It's all very well saying sign world class players to replace X and y, but they won't be on world class player wages, and there is a salary cap.
We finished 6th last season. A few of our young players have had more game time than would've been ideal but this will stand us in good stead.
Finally I don't believe for one minute that Matty Blythe is meant to be a "star" signing, but Dom Crosby is a good signing.

Thank God for Captain Hook. We are much to critical of our players. Mind you if you look at the Forums for other teams all "fans" are the same. We watch our players more closely and spot all the weaknesses. Some forum members seem to think we ought to have won the treble and then in the next breath go through the team and say how weak we are ... that's illogical. We need to stand back and think how lucky we are to support such a club. I know it's frustrating that we didn't win one of the big two but as Captain Hook says ... get a perspective. I'd like to add ... don't be so flaming miserable.

Re: Some home truths....this may hurt : Mon Oct 10, 2016 5:18 pm  

bonaire wrote:

If he came to Hull we would show you.Great player

From an outside point of view then... where would Hull play him?