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Re: Today’s match v Wakefield : Mon Jun 13, 2022 12:17 am  
Watching that video highlights then I think Currie should of stayed in the stand he was in last week, never been anywhere near since his injuries.
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Re: Today’s match v Wakefield : Mon Jun 13, 2022 12:28 am  
Currie and King have been stealing a wage all season fair play to them getting away with it I guess. Also Philbin should be nowhere near the 13. Tbh it’s hard to think of how many deserve to play.
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Re: Today’s match v Wakefield : Mon Jun 13, 2022 6:22 am  
At lease it’s two weeks until we lose again, we won’t win again this year if Powell continually picks a woeful currie a shocking king and a very poor philbin(they are probably the worse of a BAD BUNCH, except young lads)come on Daryl leave them out I’m beginning to feel sorry for the torture your putting them through never mind us fans,who aren’t helping, with showing our disappointment of the way this once elite top four club has dropped to a team who tried hard against Wakefield!!!!!(first time they have doubled us since 2009)
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Re: Today’s match v Wakefield : Mon Jun 13, 2022 6:36 am  
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Highlights. We scored a couple of nicely worked tries but defence was terrible
https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/s ... ton-wolves

Clicked on the link to hear ewan mcgregor saying lemons lemons lemons, thought he was critiquing our squad, turns out it was an advert for expedia before the highlights. The defence was absolutely shocking!
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Highlights. We scored a couple of nicely worked tries but defence was terrible
https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/s ... ton-wolves

Clicked on the link to hear ewan mcgregor saying lemons lemons lemons, thought he was critiquing our squad, turns out it was an advert for expedia before the highlights. The defence was absolutely shocking!
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Re: Today’s match v Wakefield : Mon Jun 13, 2022 6:47 am  
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Clicked on the link to hear ewan mcgregor saying lemons lemons lemons, thought he was critiquing our squad, turns out it was an advert for expedia before the highlights. The defence was absolutely shocking!


Their last (winning) try shows the difference in desire and collectiveness perfectly. A good example of Cooper, Currie and Clarke not being able to stop one man.
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Re: Today’s match v Wakefield : Mon Jun 13, 2022 7:17 am  
Think my internet is playing up, it wont load our left edge defence on the video.
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Re: Today’s match v Wakefield : Mon Jun 13, 2022 8:40 am  
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With all due respect, tosh.
You're OK to "roll the dice for a change with the risks involved". Well, we've rolled the dice.
The chips are all gone, and the croupier has thanked us for our custom.
I don't know if you've realised, but this is professional sport. He, and his side, are failing MASSIVELY. Given that other underperforming clubs (in any sport) have never sacked their underperforming playing roster before, I dare say Powell's job is over, if we lose our next two. Changing the culture. He has. Two big losing runs in a matter of months

Yes. Price underachieved and his sides played drab rugby, but he never dragged us down to this level.
Go on. Admit it. We've ####ed up appointing Powell. It's no loss of face. I came to accept it, weeks ago.


As to who would I appoint, well that's down to our embarrassing CEO/COO or whatever his job title is.


I'd have had Wane in a heartbeat.
Yes, he's bluff
Yes, he whinges
Yes, his rugby might be as bland as Price's..... BUT..... HE WINS.

I'd take a couple of drab years rugby, so we can FINALLY win the league, thank him for his time, and then go back to entertainment.

Powell is giving us neither


I'm Gaz, not Tosh - wasn't he that bloke from the Bill?

We'll never find out the final outcome of the dice roll until Powell gets his squad sorted which won't be til at least the start of next season. Surely you can't judge fully until the rotten apples are out.

These players have been have been gash for 6/7 years under 3 different coaches and you're expecting another (4th) coach to come in a get a tune out these players - now that's tosh.

We need a clear out and a culture change to win the GF. If you're one of the lazy players on top dollar, are you going to be happy that the coach is implementing a more rigid regime which denies players free time within working hours etc? No, you're going to buck against if you're one of our lazy/cant be arsed players. And when the coach says "you'll need to to participate in the new system, or they're won't be a contract renewal" - our players, as demonstrated, have downed tools.

Defense is mostly down to attitude and that's why our defence is poor - it's mainly down to lack of effort. If you want the cultural mentality of a GF winning club, we need players who are willing to put the club first and train with this mentality. A fair number of our key players are not willing to change, so we have 2 choices:

Get rid and replace players, buying into Powell's vision and keeping faith knowing that it's going to be a tough year.

Or try a 4th coach to get a tune out of these players.

You mentioned Shaun Wayne. He said himself on Sky Sports that the Warrington job was a big challenge. I wonder why that was? On paper we have one of the best squads. Perhaps he, like many of us, recognise that we need a fundamental rebuild and there's no quick fix. Do you think Shaun Wayne would have let players go early? Of course he wouldn't. So I'm guessing the players would have downed tools for him, or any other coach brave enough to come in and do what's necessary.

Evidence strongly points to it being a player/cultural problem. Get red of the chaff and judge Powell when he has his players working under his culture. Get rid of Powell and the lazy booty/complacent/don't give a monkeys players who don't give a damn about our club have won. And we end up with another yes man coach, pandering to our pathetic players and the cycle of underachievement perpetuates.
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Re: Today’s match v Wakefield : Mon Jun 13, 2022 8:48 am  
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Their last (winning) try shows the difference in desire and collectiveness perfectly. A good example of Cooper, Currie and Clarke not being able to stop one man.


Some of the 1 on 1 defence there would embarass an under 11s team. But the effort, body language and reaction to their scores just screams APATHY.

Despite all that, if we'd finished off the collectors item that was the Williams break we'd have been home and hosed - not that it would have resolved the core problems.
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Re: Today’s match v Wakefield : Mon Jun 13, 2022 8:56 am  
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Evidence strongly points to it being a player/cultural problem. Get red of the chaff and judge Powell when he has his players working under his culture.


If there's a general squad-wide attitude issue then a fair chunk of those players will still be here next year. In any workplace, you have characters who are more vocal than others - when those voices become disruptive or threaten unity then management has to come down hard and establish authority. You can't sack everyone, or ship them out en masse - but you can, and MUST, let them know who is in charge.

And this seems to be the crux of the issue. Powell is struggling to command respect, and thus buy-in.
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Re: Today’s match v Wakefield : Mon Jun 13, 2022 9:02 am  
Evidence strongly points to it being a player/cultural problem. Get red of the chaff and judge Powell when he has his players working under his culture. Get rid of Powell and the lazy booty/complacent/don't give a monkeys players who don't give a damn about our club have won.

Doesn't the fact that he dropped 2 of his own signings show that letting him get his own team in time, may be a problem in itself.
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