Re: Todays match v Catalan : Sun Feb 18, 2024 12:22 pm  

CW8 wrote:

Toby King I thought was really good, great to have him back and he seems to have matured too.

King is big, he was involved and at times he was a handful for the Catalan defence. I think his future has to be in the second row though, as he isn't going to create much for his winger.

Re: Todays match v Catalan : Sun Feb 18, 2024 12:39 pm  

Perhaps the way forward for contact sport is a health warning like fags & booze & let the players get on with the game at their own risk but fully aware of the dangers.

Re: Todays match v Catalan : Sun Feb 18, 2024 12:58 pm  

just_browny wrote:

King is big, he was involved and at times he was a handful for the Catalan defence. I think his future has to be in the second row though, as he isn't going to create much for his winger.

He didn't create much last night. But wasn't Miski the SL top try scorer last year on the outside of King?

Re: Todays match v Catalan : Sun Feb 18, 2024 1:32 pm  

ninearches wrote:

Perhaps the way forward for contact sport is a health warning like fags & booze & let the players get on with the game at their own risk but fully aware of the dangers.

It’s a shame that this isn’t actually a sarcastic post, it’s the way of the world right not what common sense can’t be relied on. I would imagine given the recent knowledge of concussion, head impact injuries and longer term effects that these would be built into contracts these days, but still the sport has to show a genuine attempt to combat the cause.

Which I don’t think anyone is complaining about stopping head collisions, it’s the bureaucracy, endless deliberation and the feigning of serious injury that are frustrating for fans. Especially when you see Vaughan get a ban for lifting a player obviously faking an injury, yet the short-term incapacitated miraculously resurrects at the peep of the whistle.

Re: Todays match v Catalan : Sun Feb 18, 2024 2:38 pm  

Barbed Wire wrote:

When a team has to have music played to the waiting stadium to plug the gaps while innocuous tackles get reviewed, it’s gone wrong somewhere. There are enough breaks in a game where retrospective action can be taken where an advantage has been allowed to play, should a card be required.

This. I saw BBC breakfast the other morning actually bigging up the new season by telling everyone what a great game RL is because it's so fast and has hardly any stoppages, it's end to end etc. Then in the very first round we had some very long stoppages in several games. It's ridiculous. Everything we used to laud the game for is being stripped away. No, I don't want a return to the olden days, it's great we're focusing more on player safety, but as others have said its coming at the cost of quality play. It's no longer about skill but who can con the ref more and who has less players on the pitch. So much tinkering with the rules year on year, and throughout round 1 we saw players milking the new system for all it's worth. All the while the sky snake oil salesmen tell viewers how good the game is getting when actually it's a terrible watch. Also, don't crow about your rule changes if you won't enforce them unilaterally and consistently.

Re: Todays match v Catalan : Sun Feb 18, 2024 4:14 pm  

Wires71 wrote:

We should get the same lawyers as used by boxing and MMA. They seem to allow head contact.

The games leadership have now created a game where

Deliberate head contact in boxing and MMA is part of the sport and within the rules . In RL it isn’t . It’s as simple as that

Re: Todays match v Catalan : Sun Feb 18, 2024 4:47 pm  

Brick with eyes wrote: Deliberate head contact in boxing and MMA is part of the sport and within the rules . In RL it isn’t . It’s as simple as that There is still "duty of care", so it's not as simple as that. You can inform yourself here. https://www.slatergordon.co.uk/newsroom ... ey%20train.

Brick with eyes wrote: Deliberate head contact in boxing and MMA is part of the sport and within the rules . In RL it isn’t . It’s as simple as that There is still "duty of care", so it's not as simple as that. You can inform yourself here. https://www.slatergordon.co.uk/newsroom ... ey%20train.

Re: Todays match v Catalan : Sun Feb 18, 2024 5:04 pm  

I was disappointed that we still don't have a leadership group that can take control of a game. They should have kicked in when the red card was pulled out of the refs back pocket, and got us all on the same page. Instead, we switched off and defended really poorly when Catalan scored their second try.

Re: Todays match v Catalan : Sun Feb 18, 2024 5:31 pm  

Both Bullock and Max Wood turned out for Widnes today. Wood scored again and offers much more than Dudson and deserves to be in.
Lucas Green played for Crusaders.

Re: Todays match v Catalan : Sun Feb 18, 2024 5:37 pm  

wirecation wrote:

He didn't create much last night. But wasn't Miski the SL top try scorer last year on the outside of King?

That's a fair challenge. King got 10 try assists last season; not shabby but suspect not the main source of Miski's tries: French, Field and Smith got 73 assists between them.