Re: 2017 and Tony Smith : Mon Feb 13, 2017 4:58 pm  

You will never get rid of Smith

Re: 2017 and Tony Smith : Mon Feb 13, 2017 5:14 pm  

rubber duckie wrote:

.....however TS may have had his hands bound over Sandow's CC and GF bench selections. It was put to me by a friend that his inclusion in the team may have been contractual. Hmmm there's a thought.

If Smith or anyone else at the club agreed a contract whereby a player was guaranteed a place if the team got to a final then they should have been sacked by the board straight away.
Personally I don't believe that was the case. Aussie coaches in general don't like to give their young players much chance. I remember overhearing a conversation at a Wigan v Wire academy game and one of the Wire staff openly said to his Wigan counterpart "This man won't give ours a chance"!!

Re: 2017 and Tony Smith : Mon Feb 13, 2017 5:43 pm  

Perhaps...it is a conspiracy type idea. Under the circumstances of having is inclusion off the bench in both finals that he had no part in reaching, it does have legs.

Re: 2017 and Tony Smith : Mon Feb 13, 2017 7:12 pm  

Can we knock on the head the idea that Tony Smith thinks the taking part is what matters. The point he makes on many occasions is that if the performance is right, the results will look after themselves. I imagine focusing on performance rather than the result (or league table) reduces the pressure on players to some degree. However, in terms of getting the results you can't really argue either. We lost two finals but that wasn't because of some attitude of the taking part being the important thing.

Re: 2017 and Tony Smith : Mon Feb 13, 2017 8:10 pm  

I heard him say these exact words "sport isn't just about winning". He then went on a long speech about how its about developing these players as people off the field and making sure they are ready for life after rugby etc. Tony, you are not a social worker or a careers adviser. You are a rugby league coach.

Re: 2017 and Tony Smith : Mon Feb 13, 2017 9:19 pm  

djhudds wrote:

Was scrum half, same when played for giants

Toby King was signed directly from Meltham & as far as I am aware never played for Huddersfield Giants.

George King did play for Huddersfield Giants Academy & came to Wire on a player exchange deal with Micky Learmonth leaving Warrington.

Re: 2017 and Tony Smith : Tue Feb 14, 2017 7:01 am  

Toby spent two years in the scholarship and played 12 games for them, all at scrum half

Re: 2017 and Tony Smith : Tue Feb 14, 2017 7:50 am  

rubber duckie wrote:

Perhaps...it is a conspiracy type idea. Under the circumstances of having is inclusion off the bench in both finals that he had no part in reaching, it does have legs.

Didn't Sandow start at Wembley? As well as the semi? Or is my mind playing tricks?

[Uncle Rico]

Re: 2017 and Tony Smith : Tue Feb 14, 2017 7:54 am  

Wire skular wrote:

You will never get rid of Smith

Why get rid of him, we won the LLS and appeared in two finals last year and this season we are two points off the top!

Re: 2017 and Tony Smith : Tue Feb 14, 2017 8:50 am  

Clearwing wrote:

That'd make it 5 seasons

He said he'd "Never" won it.