Re: Daryl Powell : Sun Mar 13, 2022 9:41 am  

Dita's Slot Meter wrote:

Not sure why. We have performed no better or worse than anyone could have sensibly expected.

This was never an overnight fix. Nights like tonight and last week are going to continue for a while yet, whoever is coaching them. This is a side with a number of issues.

The one person who gets a clear run this year (barring any unlikely flirting with the drop) is Powell. He needs to be given the chance to work long term with this squad. As discussed in other threads, we are a club with many ingrained demons and simply expecting a new coach to come in and suddenly fix that is laughable.

Do you realise speaking sensibly and reasonably can get you a ban lol

I don't see how we can continue to point out how many players we have that are not good enough or how many times we remind ourselves this is the worst pack we've had in over a decade yet still keep putting the blame on the coach.

Walkers pass to Philbin when widdop was expecting it shows that some players are getting Powell's system where others are still reverting to older systems when under pressure. I think we've won the games expected and lost two games against sides that are peaking and have been together under their coach for sometime our squad is on its way out and under a new coach really unfair at the moment to make comparisons.

My main worry is that saints gave away enough penalties and turned over enough ball for us to make a better contest than it was on the score board.

Re: Daryl Powell : Sun Mar 13, 2022 10:15 am  

[quote="Barbed Wire"]I’ve been quite open with my reservations, but Powell hasn’t had his best team on the field yet. It’s not much of a saving grace, given that a few absences have been suspensions but let’s at least see what the first team can do.

I would imagine that Harrison would have been one of his first choice pack members, given that Powell made a move for him early.

Charnley is effective and was missed on Friday, his suspension hurt us. Holmes (for reasons unknown) appears to be a cornerstone of Powells pack and has sat out 2 games. Cooper, Clark, King are all starters who have missed.

That said, scraping home against 11 men against Leeds and putting away easy beats in Castleford and Toulouse is the summary of our success so far, not inspiring.[/quote


There's four things that I hope DP is focussing on, improving each players individual performance, changing the style of play, promoting teamwork and team ethic and recruiting the right players for positions we are weak in. This would be the focus I'd be expecting, no matter who was in charge. Time will judge DP, with recruitment being difficult, as we can only change the squad when members come off contract. The playing style may take a season to implement, and that goes for individual player development too. Work should have started on all of these, with no quick fixes or guarantees that we'll get what we wish for. It's a case of be patient and suck it up, something we ought be well practised at.

One thing I wonder about, is are we rushing players back too soon? Last season, Daryl Clark was not the player he has been last season, nor is he in 2022. It was reported that he needed treatment for more than one injury during the off system, and I was surprised that he came back so early in the season. Cooper doesn't look as if he's as effective after suffering from a reported illness, either. There's others I could mention. Having said that, it's highly unlikely that any coach is able to put out their best side, fully fit, on a regular basis, but It does affect the side when your more influential players are in the stands, or not firing on all cylinders. I hope that DP will put more trust in other members of the squad, rather than risk the health of one or more of his first choice 17. It may turn out that we fail to make the playoffs, but we need to plan for being part of them, having as many of our best players available when the time comes, playing as a team, knowing what the plan is, and effectively executing it.

I'm prepared to be disappointed when we get to September, as long as there are tangible signs of us moving in the right direction.

[Fantastic Mr Catpiss]

Re: Daryl Powell : Tue Mar 15, 2022 10:03 am  

Lineham seems to have a different opinion of the management at warrington than many on here. He's right about Toby though, ppl lamenting him, everything we did well for him at the start of last year, we haven't done (high balls) since he came back from injury https://twitter.com/WhatBevan/status/15 ... us6wg&s=19

Lineham seems to have a different opinion of the management at warrington than many on here. He's right about Toby though, ppl lamenting him, everything we did well for him at the start of last year, we haven't done (high balls) since he came back from injury https://twitter.com/WhatBevan/status/15 ... us6wg&s=19

Re: Daryl Powell : Tue Mar 15, 2022 11:44 am  

Fantastic Mr Catpiss wrote:

He's right about Toby though, ppl lamenting him, everything we did well for him at the start of last year, we haven't done (high balls) since he came back from injury

Am I being fussy to suggest I want more from an international centre than just the ability to catch a high ball?

[Fantastic Mr Catpiss]

Re: Daryl Powell : Tue Mar 15, 2022 1:12 pm  

Dita's Slot Meter wrote:

Am I being fussy to suggest I want more from an international centre than just the ability to catch a high ball?

nope thats bang on, but when you've got a player who's got a strength that 9 times out of 10 teams couldn't defend it, why would you stop utilizing it?

Re: Daryl Powell : Tue Mar 15, 2022 1:14 pm  

The Warrington way as he says as not win us a Grand Final, we have to be different but right now it is just not working.

Re: Daryl Powell : Tue Mar 15, 2022 1:20 pm  

5 games into a new coach’s tenure, lost to Saints and Catalans, seems a bit early to say “it’s not working”.

Re: Daryl Powell : Tue Mar 15, 2022 1:59 pm  

Captain Hook wrote:

5 games into a new coach’s tenure, lost to Saints and Catalans, seems a bit early to say “it’s not working”.

But the fact is our attack looks no better than it did under price. In fact, I'd say we look even worse.

Re: Daryl Powell : Tue Mar 15, 2022 2:11 pm  

Moe syslak wrote:

But the fact is our attack looks no better than it did under price. In fact, I'd say we look even worse.

I’m not saying he’s the Messiah, just it takes time for systems to bed in, 3 off season signings haven’t made it onto the pitch. Give the new coach a bit of time before giving up on him.

[Fantastic Mr Catpiss]

Re: Daryl Powell : Tue Mar 15, 2022 2:35 pm  

Moe syslak wrote:

But the fact is our attack looks no better than it did under price. In fact, I'd say we look even worse.

against saints and catalans, prior to that, as sky have highlighted, we did appear to have some success working our overlaps, the 3 on 3 and putting the winger in which we definitely weren't able to do last year, hence ratchford coming in for a lot of flak for his lack of assists.