Re: 2017 and Tony Smith : Tue Feb 14, 2017 10:18 am  

Uncle Rico wrote:

Why get rid of him, we won the LLS and appeared in two finals last year and this season we are two points off the top!

Can we nail this LLS stuff. No other big team sets that as a target. Our target was to win the Grand Final.

Re: 2017 and Tony Smith : Tue Feb 14, 2017 10:32 am  

We're a strange club, when looking at coach retention.

If we take the average length of time for a coach to be two years, we rarely comply. We either have the "stay longer than the Mother-in-law at Christmas",..... Johnno over 7 years, DVDV 4 years, Cullen over 5 years and Smith 8 years......then, there's the revolving door syndrome....Anderson, Plange, Dorahy and gobpooh Lowes. We're either kneejerk or too sentimental.

As I've said before, I can't see Moran getting shut of Smith any time soon. They portray this image of them skipping through a cornfield, hand in hand, looking at each other longingly. An appalling season will be the only way that Smith goes.

p.s. He's still the best coach we've had in my watching lifetime

Re: 2017 and Tony Smith : Tue Feb 14, 2017 11:08 am  

Wires71 wrote:

Can we nail this LLS stuff. No other big team sets that as a target. Our target was to win the Grand Final.

And will be this year too. The best way to give us a chance of doing so is to win the LLS (unless St Helens finish 4th). I agree the LLS is close to worthless (to us) but I'd rather win it than finish 5th. All routes should lead to Old Trafford; nothing else matters.

Re: 2017 and Tony Smith : Tue Feb 14, 2017 11:10 am  

The All New Chester Wire wrote:

And will be this year too. The best way to give us a chance of doing so is to win the LLS (unless St Helens finish 4th). I agree the LLS is close to worthless (to us) but I'd rather win it than finish 5th. All routes should lead to Old Trafford; nothing else matters.

last year was so close, no matter how far.

Re: 2017 and Tony Smith : Tue Feb 14, 2017 11:12 am  

Moe syslak wrote:

I heard him say these exact words "sport isn't just about winning". He then went on a long speech about how its about developing these players as people off the field and making sure they are ready for life after rugby etc. Tony, you are not a social worker or a careers adviser. You are a rugby league coach.

Again, you are overanalysing it to serve a particular agenda. Sport isn't just about winning and all those other things are important. However, he's a professional rugby league coach and his number one ambition at the start of the season will be to win the top trophy. This doesn't stop him from worrying about player development, player welfare, providing entertainment. But trust me, when he sits down with the Board, and most importantly, Simon Moran, his overriding objective will be to deliver trophies and one above all.

Re: 2017 and Tony Smith : Tue Feb 14, 2017 11:19 pm  

On the topic of who I'd like as Smiths successor i would like to throw an alternative suggestion out there

Alfie Langer

Currently working at Brisbane as an assistant coach - so not a total newcomer to coaching
Former Warrington player so has the ex player/knows the club angle
As an ex half back could hopefully help improve our attacking play

Re: 2017 and Tony Smith : Wed Feb 15, 2017 9:11 am  

Not sure why he'd be interested in coming to Warrington though. He'd be an unknown quantity and the pay would have to be very very good bearing in mind the exchange rate. Would he uproot his family for just a couple of years for the sake of a few extra quid and the risk of being unsuccessful in his first big job?

Re: 2017 and Tony Smith : Wed Feb 15, 2017 10:14 am  

JJB on the superleague show bemoaning the lack of maverick players in the modern game ,sacrificed in favour of one size fits all utility players in the mould of "it's not the winning it's the taking part that matters".Also comments from McManus & Tony Smith about the state of the international game & competition from RU for our best players.

Re: 2017 and Tony Smith : Wed Feb 15, 2017 12:38 pm  

Wires71 wrote:

Yes watching Warrington last year was dull. We were spoiled in 2009-12 as we played attractive flowing rugby and won things. Now we do neither. All our hopes pinned on an aging Kevin Brown too.

Kevin is a similar player the Lee Briers so I think good times are round the corner for the Wire again

Re: 2017 and Tony Smith : Wed Feb 15, 2017 5:02 pm  

ScouseWire wrote:

On the topic of who I'd like as Smiths successor i would like to throw an alternative suggestion out there

Alfie Langer

Currently working at Brisbane as an assistant coach - so not a total newcomer to coaching
Former Warrington player so has the ex player/knows the club angle
As an ex half back could hopefully help improve our attacking play

I thought we were the top points scorers last season ?