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Re: Ben Barba : Tue May 23, 2017 4:28 pm  
I doubt very very much they would swap Walmsley and Percival for just Ratchford, if this did actually happen. But really can't see it happening at all.
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Re: Ben Barba : Tue May 23, 2017 4:57 pm  
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I doubt very very much they would swap Walmsley and Percival for just Ratchford, if this did actually happen. But really can't see it happening at all.


Neither of them was good enough to be selected for the England V Samoa game.

I agree with you that its highly unlikely, but if the Stains fans can speculate about signing Wire players, then we can cherry pick players from their side that Wire could use.
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Re: Ben Barba : Wed May 24, 2017 6:35 am  
Tony smith says saints are frontrunners we need move on
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Re: Ben Barba : Wed May 24, 2017 7:22 am  
It does genuinely sound like we have never made a serious bid for him.

And given the similarities with Chris Sandow I can fully understand that stance.

It must be tough for the club we had the same tenuous links with Cooper Cronk when he was looking for a new contract. With Smith having to answer questions about him.
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Re: Ben Barba : Wed May 24, 2017 8:04 am  
the flying biscuit wrote:
It does genuinely sound like we have never made a serious bid for him.

And given the similarities with Chris Sandow I can fully understand that stance.

It must be tough for the club we had the same tenuous links with Cooper Cronk when he was looking for a new contract. With Smith having to answer questions about him.


I, for one, would be gutted if we haven't made a serious bid for him. We need to be chasing talent like his regardless of the risk that may come with it.
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Re: Ben Barba : Wed May 24, 2017 8:52 am  
the flying biscuit wrote:
It does genuinely sound like we have never made a serious bid for him. .


I doubt that. Brett Kimmorley said he was in talks with Warrington and Saints weeks ago. There have been rumours for the last couple of weeks that he'd signed for you, bouncing between that and him signing for Saints and Catalans as well. It's well documented that he's been in discussions with a few SL clubs. Tony Smith has also been quoted today saying you were interested and basically are awaiting his decision. If it were purely financial I think you would be top of the list, but I think the link with Holbrook is probably the thing in our favour currently.
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Re: Ben Barba : Wed May 24, 2017 10:31 am  
He's signed for Warrington. Well according to a senior club official anyway.

But to be honest, that same senior club official has not exactly been truthful or correct previously so...
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Re: Ben Barba : Wed May 24, 2017 10:37 am  
Wirefan wrote:
He's signed for Warrington. Well according to a senior club official anyway.

But to be honest, that same senior club official has not exactly been truthful or correct previously so...


Interesting. Just sorting the ban and visa potentially then.
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Re: Ben Barba : Wed May 24, 2017 11:09 am  
Saddened! wrote:
I doubt that. Brett Kimmorley said he was in talks with Warrington and Saints weeks ago. There have been rumours for the last couple of weeks that he'd signed for you, bouncing between that and him signing for Saints and Catalans as well. It's well documented that he's been in discussions with a few SL clubs. Tony Smith has also been quoted today saying you were interested and basically are awaiting his decision. If it were purely financial I think you would be top of the list, but I think the link with Holbrook is probably the thing in our favour currently.


I doubt that Brett Kimmorley knows much.... Steve Mascord one of the better Aussie Journalists that actually seems to know a bit about Superleague mentioned We "made a play for Barba" on Sunday Morning of Magic weekend. I find that astonishing if he was a genuine target.

and from what I read of the Tony smith quotes it sounds as if we are waiting to see if he wants to go to saints and if he doesn't we could offer him something. (That may be far away from the truth but thats what it sounds like to me). Again hardly a ringing endorsement of being a number one target for us.

the Holbrook thing that's not really a strong link, He was coach of the Canterbury Bulldogs New south Wales cup side (reserve grade), Barba was a star of the NYC side (under 20's team). So he most likely never played under Holbrook.

the best way to look at this is how many fans will laugh at us for signing Barba six months after our last bad boy Aussie mercenary laughed at his Wire contract and did a runner back to Australia.

what it does highlight is that if he goes to either Saints or Catalan it will make our attempts to get out of the bottom 4 much more difficult.
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Re: Ben Barba : Wed May 24, 2017 12:00 pm  
A very interesting quote from TS
"It SOUNDS like they're (Saints) are front runners"
Referring to press and social media.
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