Re: The BIG vote. : Sun Sep 16, 2018 10:40 am  

sir adrian morley wrote:

Totally agree finish bottom off you go..finish top you get promoted.. Its reward for a seasons hard toil..and justice if your bottom of the pile...no 2nd bite of the cherry...seems logic to me

Except of course promotion will be decided via a top 5 play off, the same format as the SL structure- so although unlikely the team fifth in Champ can be promoted

Re: The BIG vote. : Sun Sep 16, 2018 10:43 am  

The Speculator wrote:

So what are these "six additional fixtures" that are going to be played after the regular season and before the play-offs? I may have missed it, but in all the articles I have read about the restructure, there has been no mention of how these six fixtures will be decided upon. Whatever it is, it doesn't solve the problem we've had for years now (thanks to Magic Weekend) that the regular season isn't a level playing field. I'd have much preferred a 16-team Super League (and we're actually at a rare point in time where there might just be enough depth for that), with home and away fixtures equalling 30 games. If you still want a Magic Weekend (and I don't), simply make it a regular round of fixtures played at one venue, with teams giving up their home advantage in alternate years.

From memory, it will be odds v evens based on league fixtures the previous year

1 v 2, 6 and 10 at home and 4, 8 and 12 away.

2 v 3, 7 and 11 at home, 1, 5 and 9 away.


Also it appears that the Magic fixtures will NOT be against any of the teams in the loop fixtures to avoid over saturation as in Wigan v Wire this year.

Re: The BIG vote. : Sun Sep 16, 2018 11:00 am  

To me the loop fixtures offer an opportunity to go on the road again. Responsibility for the marketing and projection of the fixture to be by both clubs with the revenue being shared. After all as I understand it the intention is to improve and project the competition and this is a way to do it.Possible venues to be at those interested in hosting at RLWC in 2021
Saints v Wigan at Coventry
Cas v Wire at Villa Park. Etc

Re: The BIG vote. : Sun Sep 16, 2018 11:03 am  

Rogues, you have seven additional fixtures here, is that correct? I thought that the season was 29 games next year, I assume that includes Magic Weekend, and six others, plus 22 regular season games?

Re: The BIG vote. : Sun Sep 16, 2018 11:04 am  

Ignore me, I should read stuff twice on a Sunday.

Re: The BIG vote. : Sun Sep 16, 2018 11:18 am  

The problem with deciding the loop fixtures based on league standings from the previous season is that form can change massively from one year to the next.

Re: The BIG vote. : Sun Sep 16, 2018 1:05 pm  

Loop fixtures FFS. The reason we have to restructure the league every few years is that the RFL continue to add unnecessary confusing complications. Can we just have a 15 team league, home and away fixtures and magic? In trying to think outside the box all that ever comes to the fore is the limitations to their ideas.

Re: The BIG vote. : Sun Sep 16, 2018 1:19 pm  

CW8 wrote:

Loop fixtures FFS. The reason we havv to restructure the league every few years is that the RFL continue to add unnecessary confusing complications. Can we just have a 15 team league, home and away fixtures and magic? In trying to think outside the box all that ever comes to tee fore is the limitations to their ideas.

They don't want to split the money by 15, each club would get 6.666% of the distribution instead of 8.333% plus there are barely enough players of the required quality as it is.

But I agree the structure is a mess. I'm not sure Magic is all that either. The aggregate attendance is less than the games played seperately.

Re: The BIG vote. : Sun Sep 16, 2018 1:35 pm  

Wires71 wrote:

They don't want to split the money by 15, each club would get 6.666% of the distribution instead of 8.333% plus there are barely enough players of the required quality as it is.

But I agree the structure is a mess. I'm not sure Magic is all that either. The aggregate attendance is less than the games played seperately.

I agree they could do the cup quarter finals as magic weekend. May get a different crowd with a big day out for some championship sides etc. I hadn't really considered the competition money, it's not the end of the world and the extra teams are likely to be toulouse, Toronto and perhaps London, it's an expansionists dream. I don't think those teams would detract from the competition (so long as it's not a Paul Rowley Toronto side).

Re: The BIG vote. : Sun Sep 16, 2018 2:25 pm  

So many meaningless games