Re: An Unpalatable Thought : Sun Jun 16, 2019 4:02 pm  

Without the individual flashes of brilliance from Clarke and Austin Warrington are just above par in the SL. That brilliance could take you all the way but without it you’ll go nowhere! Sorry if that sounds harsh and I’m in your corner and hoping you win the lot but at the minute that’s the way an outsider sees it

Re: An Unpalatable Thought : Sun Jun 16, 2019 4:09 pm  

Widnes Al wrote:

Without the individual flashes of brilliance from Clarke and Austin Warrington are just above par in the SL. That brilliance could take you all the way but without it you’ll go nowhere! Sorry if that sounds harsh and I’m in your corner and hoping you win the lot but at the minute that’s the way an outsider sees it

That's the way I think most of us see it as well. Saints look fitter than the rest of the league and are able to maintain a much better line speed than everyone else. Every other team is inconsistent, we are just less inconsistent than the rest and have a bit more individual spark.

I dont like out defence first approach but then again if it wins us the GF then I won't remember or care how we played through the season.

Re: An Unpalatable Thought : Sun Jun 16, 2019 4:27 pm  

Saints are there for the taking. Like last year they and their fans are so up their own arris it’s unbelievable! I know cos I’ve stood there and watched them and suffered abuse when I’ve suggested that Daryl Clarke is better than Roby and that Luke Thompson is overrated! Warrington’s problem is not Saints... it’s themselves

Re: An Unpalatable Thought : Sun Jun 16, 2019 4:56 pm  

Widnes Al wrote:

Saints are there for the taking. Like last year they and their fans are so up their own arris it’s unbelievable! I know cos I’ve stood there and watched them and suffered abuse when I’ve suggested that Daryl Clarke is better than Roby and that Luke Thompson is overrated! Warrington’s problem is not Saints... it’s themselves

Barring Leeds’s treble-winning side in 2015, the last decade of grand finals has shown that the side not finishing top (and often looking mediocre and downright rubbish at times) grinds out a GF victory. Take Wigan in 2016 for example, or Leeds in 2017. Plenty of rubbish performances throughout the season where fans were calling for the coach’s head. Then they somehow turn it on for the final. Of course, I’m not suggesting Warrington will do that, but looking second best all season has worked for most champion teams in recent history.

I do however agree that Saints are the most consistently good team, just as they were last season.

Re: An Unpalatable Thought : Sun Jun 16, 2019 6:19 pm  

I think we're very poorly led on the field. It can lead to often to losing our heads and poor discipline.

Instead of grabbing the game by the scruff of the neck, Hill will more likely be seen moaning to the ref. After all the final losses, we should have made a clear change, not a halfway house with a co-captain.

Re: An Unpalatable Thought : Sun Jun 16, 2019 6:30 pm  

I don't buy this 'standard dropped across the board' stuff.

There's always been 2 or 3 teams fighting out. The difference is its not Wigan or leeds this time...it's Wire and Saints.
Just because Wigan are shat...it doesn't hold up that suddenly all the league is shat...when it's just the status quo.

Re: An Unpalatable Thought : Sun Jun 16, 2019 7:01 pm  

The problem this year with SL is it’s missing the class that is Widnes!
Seriously though RD you are absolutely spot on!

Re: An Unpalatable Thought : Sun Jun 16, 2019 8:45 pm  

That’s the great enigma about the Wires, it doesn’t matter whether we actually are the best team in the league, or whether we just think we are, the outcome is always the same, losers.

It’s in our DNA

Re: An Unpalatable Thought : Sun Jun 16, 2019 9:43 pm  

Let's just see how saints handle the pressure seeing as everyone has carved their name on the trophy this year already. They might be the best side this season but French Connection UK me, they are hardly the 1982 Australian touring side people make them out to be!!

Re: An Unpalatable Thought : Mon Jun 17, 2019 11:20 am  

Without Clark and Ratchford the opposition can concentrate on Austin. Then factor in our indiscipline which has been an increasing worry and most teams have a sniff against us. If we could sort out the penalties we would be a much better team.