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Re: Saints. Mon Jun 24, 2019 12:51 pm  

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I'm not sure...are you still coming in at a thick level?


DOH.......... :FRUSRATED: ................. :STUPID:
The new young dynasty of super saints is coming to a ground near you.
Welsby-Dodd-Simms-Eaves-Rizzelli, not Eastmond...the future is coming.
Re: Saints. Mon Jun 24, 2019 1:29 pm  

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In fairness, we can’t complain about our friend AS coming here when you’re doing the same on their board. FWIW I dislike their lot as much as the rest. But the plane stunt was just as bad as ‘pie smashing’, we’re in no place to goad them and it’s likely going to come back and sting us come Friday, and once again we look utterly Juan-key.
Re: Saints. Mon Jun 24, 2019 1:45 pm  

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Sighs and we get fed up with As108 :?
Re: Saints. Mon Jun 24, 2019 2:26 pm  
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matt_wire wrote:
In fairness, we can’t complain about our friend AS coming here when you’re doing the same on their board. FWIW I dislike their lot as much as the rest. But the plane stunt was just as bad as ‘pie smashing’, we’re in no place to goad them and it’s likely going to come back and sting us come Friday, and once again we look utterly Juan-key.


Why is likely to come back to sting us?
Re: Saints. Mon Jun 24, 2019 2:34 pm  

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Fantastic Mr Catpiss wrote:
Why is likely to come back to sting us?


How dare we try and promote the game in new ways!

We should get back in our box, clearly. At least if we use the age old strategy of 'hoping people turn up' some Saints planks on a rugby forum wont be able to poke fun at us for having the audacity of promoting the game!
Re: Saints. Mon Jun 24, 2019 2:53 pm  

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How dare we try and promote the game in new ways!

We should get back in our box, clearly. At least if we use the age old strategy of 'hoping people turn up' some Saints planks on a rugby forum wont be able to poke fun at us for having the audacity of promoting the game!


As Wire and Saints are way ahead of others does it really need promoting though its most likely to be a full house anyway because Wire are treating this as a really big important game, Saints will just see it as another game that will tick the box towards the play offs, the Saints always go to the HJ in big numbers. Whoever wins the game won't have a reflection on how the form will be when it does come to the play offs the result will just be a reward towards bragging rights for a week or two.
The new young dynasty of super saints is coming to a ground near you.
Welsby-Dodd-Simms-Eaves-Rizzelli, not Eastmond...the future is coming.
Re: Saints. Mon Jun 24, 2019 3:00 pm  

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And it's that kind of attitude that is killing attendances in this country - basically NO games matter apart from the semis/finals! It's 1st v 2nd and,admittedly in the great scheme of things it might not matter but it still should be built up as a big game regardless. I don't think the stunt from us was anything to come back and bite us - it was harmless and not mocking anyone - unlike the Hull stuff which was daft.

Why the condescending nonsense about this not being a big game for Saints??? If so, then why turn up in great numbers like you do - it's this dismissive arrogance that gets up everyone's noses.
Ettinghausen's gone ice skatin'
Re: Saints. Mon Jun 24, 2019 3:02 pm  
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Saints are favs giving us a 4 start..for those who wanna win a few quid take saints giving us 4...
Re: Saints. Mon Jun 24, 2019 3:41 pm  

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And it's that kind of attitude that is killing attendances in this country - basically NO games matter apart from the semis/finals! It's 1st v 2nd and,admittedly in the great scheme of things it might not matter but it still should be built up as a big game regardless. I don't think the stunt from us was anything to come back and bite us - it was harmless and not mocking anyone - unlike the Hull stuff which was daft.

Why the condescending nonsense about this not being a big game for Saints??? If so, then why turn up in great numbers like you do - it's this dismissive arrogance that gets up everyone's noses.


For us the big game(s) will be in the play offs or the Challenge Cup if we get there or if we have to win our last super league game for the LLS. We always turn up at HJ in great numbers because the style of play of the 2 clubs is the attraction and most likely to be an entertaining one. Its a much bigger game for Wire because they are playing catch up and they are not giving up on that challenge.
The new young dynasty of super saints is coming to a ground near you.
Welsby-Dodd-Simms-Eaves-Rizzelli, not Eastmond...the future is coming.
Re: Saints. Mon Jun 24, 2019 3:44 pm  

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Judder Man wrote:
As Wire and Saints are way ahead of others does it really need promoting though its most likely to be a full house anyway because Wire are treating this as a really big important game, Saints will just see it as another game that will tick the box towards the play offs, the Saints always go to the HJ in big numbers. Whoever wins the game won't have a reflection on how the form will be when it does come to the play offs the result will just be a reward towards bragging rights for a week or two.


I'm not sure this game would sell out from a Warrington perspective without the additional push - I'm not confident it will sell out with it. How much would the promotion have cost? I couldn't honestly say, so it's difficult to determine cost effectiveness. The club don't seem to be doing the open press conference this time around which is a shame (they did vs Wigan) - possibly they are looking at how well these things work in isolation before introducing them to all big games.

It's too simplistic to think of it as the impact just in terms of the attendance, there were probably 100k+ people watching that Saints game on Sky, more bums on armchairs is important too - this sort of thing can attract fans of other clubs to tune in, important given how close the TV contract renewal is. Warrington are all about building the event this season for each game, and increasing awareness around the town. I've had mates send me Twitter posts with videos on, some of them aren't even RL fans, so it shows it is working to a degree. Maybe with enough repeated exposure, some will be influenced to take in a game - it's all about building the perception of the event and how important it is, make people not want to miss out.

Getting more people talking about the sport in the town, and in St Helens (especially those who aren't as bought in to the sport / club as we are), has to be a good thing? It's intangible to a degree, but we need to raise awareness.

At least they are doing something.
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