Re: New signings : Tue Jul 16, 2019 7:18 am  

runningman29 wrote:

Wondered how long it would be before you popped up with the scapegoat argument.If you can’t see he’s just bang average you need give your head a wobble.

As 50% of players are below average, I'll settle for that.

Re: New signings : Tue Jul 16, 2019 8:04 am  

silver2 wrote:

As 50% of players are below average, I'll settle for that.

Yes, we have several average players in the squad. However, they are playing in postions where we can get away with it and our league position confirms that.

Patton is playing in the key attacking hub of the team, and his shortcomings have a significant impact on the attacking fluidity of the team and also the effectiveness of his half back partner.

Re: New signings : Tue Jul 16, 2019 9:29 am  

Let's see what front row we have at Cas.
If it's just Hill and Tasi...we're toast again whomever at at 7.

Re: New signings : Tue Jul 16, 2019 11:05 am  

I just hope our season doesn't spiral out of control just like Wolfie's aeroplane. Every team seems to have the measure of us....quick ,on rushing defence & we are struggling.

Re: New signings : Tue Jul 16, 2019 11:24 am  

silver2 wrote:

As 50% of players are below average, I'll settle for that.

Not strictly true. 50% would apply to the median rather than the mean (average) - but I'm being pedantic.

Patton is Championship, or lower reaches of Super League, standard. He's not up to what is required from a starting half back in a Super League club who are challenging for silverware, but the point is - that's not why he's in the squad. His role at the start of the season was that of third half back. With Austin and Brown fit he would either be out on loan or holding down a bench place as interchange hooker. I don't know what salary he's on but I would imagine that his contract is appropriate for that level.

The failure is not Patton's, it is a failure to recruit a starting half back when we got relief against the salary cap when Brown picked up his pre-season injury. That said, half backs don't grow on trees so maybe the club tried and failed. If everything goes to plan and we start next season with Austin and Widdop fit and ready to play then having Patton on the books isn't such a bad option.

Re: New signings : Tue Jul 16, 2019 11:43 am  

St Helens Wolf wrote:

Not strictly true. 50% would apply to the median rather than the mean (average) - but I'm being pedantic.

Patton is Championship, or lower reaches of Super League, standard. He's not up to what is required from a starting half back in a Super League club who are challenging for silverware, but the point is - that's not why he's in the squad. His role at the start of the season was that of third half back. With Austin and Brown fit he would either be out on loan or holding down a bench place as interchange hooker. I don't know what salary he's on but I would imagine that his contract is appropriate for that level.

The failure is not Patton's, it is a failure to recruit a starting half back when we got relief against the salary cap when Brown picked up his pre-season injury. That said, half backs don't grow on trees so maybe the club tried and failed. If everything goes to plan and we start next season with Austin and Widdop fit and ready to play then having Patton on the books isn't such a bad option.

THIS.

[Fantastic Mr Catpiss]

Re: New signings : Tue Jul 16, 2019 12:58 pm  

its interesting that neither us nor cas entered into finding a replacement

Re: New signings : Tue Jul 16, 2019 2:40 pm  

Trueman stepped up didn't he?...
As did Morgan Smith...sorry we let him go.

Re: New signings : Tue Jul 16, 2019 5:20 pm  

This new signings thread has a really disappointing ring to it.

Re: New signings : Tue Jul 16, 2019 5:21 pm  

rubber duckie wrote:

Trueman stepped up didn't he?...
As did Morgan Smith...sorry we let him go.

I was surprised we letSmith go, especially given his accurate passing.