[Winslade's Offload]

Re: CEO agrees season was a failure : Sat Oct 05, 2019 1:21 pm  

KFP will be even more aware of our shortcomings after Saford, with no Academy, very limited financial clout, and few attractions other than ££ for new players to sign on, have managed to get the the GF. Well done Salford, they deserve all the credit for their achievement, but it certainly highlights our underperformance this year.

I think Dita raises a very good point about our Academy. We do need some top quality players coming through rather than constantly getting out the check book. And it's not simply that we are missing the stars, those that make it through as just squad players bring an awful lot of enthusiasm as they try and break through into the first team. Plus their salaries are typically low in the early years, we get a salary cap reduction, and they are invaluable for filling the gaps when we get a string of injuries. I think we need to get a lot more streetwise about using amateur clubs that draft in players and have strong U15 squads. From what I understand both Leeds and Wigan both provide free coaching to some clubs and then have first pick of the best kids. £100k spent on this type of exercise must surely be worth far more than £100k on a new signing - or a lot more if we have to get a prop from Oz.

Re: CEO agrees season was a failure : Sat Oct 05, 2019 2:21 pm  

I think our season has been disappointing but to be called a failure when we've won one of the two trophies on offer is a bit too far I believe......If Stains blow it next week against Salford then their season would be a bigger failure than ours even though they've entertained their fans with some great attacking rugby all year....I'm more peed off this year than I was last year after losing both finals but at least as a paying supporter I got better value for money with what Wire produced on the field....funny old game isn't it?

Re: CEO agrees season was a failure : Sat Oct 05, 2019 4:01 pm  

Fantastic Mr Catpiss wrote:

You've contradicted yourself there massively

Appreciate that, but that was just in the case of george burgess who isn't really a gamble signing, and that ship has sailed. I don't see anyone else in the NRL fitting that category. A quality experienced prop who wants to come to superleague! Can you think of anyone? Unless Sam fancies it?

Re: CEO agrees season was a failure : Sat Oct 05, 2019 4:38 pm  

It's clear cut and healthy.
Win the GF in 2020 or you're out.
At least KF and SP know where they stand. No pressure....We don't want SP being in fear of a bold decision because he's scared of the unknown future.

Re: CEO agrees season was a failure : Sat Oct 05, 2019 5:18 pm  

rubber duckie wrote:

It's clear cut and healthy.
Win the GF in 2020 or you're out.
At least KF and SP know where they stand. No pressure....We don't want SP being in fear of a bold decision because he's scared of the unknown future.

That's fair enough. But can you really see Price being kept until the end of the season if we start 2020 as we ended 2019, both quality of play & results wise?

Do you honestly see the board sitting on their hands and doing nothing if we only win 1 or 2 from our first half dozen games?

Reality is, we have ended this season in the sort of form that will see us fighting the drop next year. Just remember, next season's likely promoted side won't be there to make up the numbers (not that London did that, but they were certainly expected to) and so it's not unrealistic to say that a continuation of the bad form would put the club under big pressure to act swiftly.

If we had started this season in the form we ended it, then Price wouldn't have saw Easter.. Next season, there will be even bigger pressure, so I'd expect, and want us to be, extremely ruthless.

Re: CEO agrees season was a failure : Sat Oct 05, 2019 6:33 pm  

rubber duckie wrote:

It's clear cut and healthy.
Win the GF in 2020 or you're out.
At least KF and SP know where they stand. No pressure....We don't want SP being in fear of a bold decision because he's scared of the unknown future.

If we keep Austin and Widdop fit
If Murdoch-Masilla loses 2st of fat and puts on 1st of muscle and plays loose
If we sign two proper decent props where Hill and Cooper aren’t sure of their places
If Currie can get his confidence back
If someone can make a contribution at hooker from the bench

Then we have a chance of that. But it’s all “if”s.

If we don’t address the weaknesses I won’t be expecting to win the GF. And we probably won’t.

For me it’s: address our weaknesses and try and challenge for the trophies playing decent exciting rugby league football.

Re: CEO agrees season was a failure : Sat Oct 05, 2019 6:46 pm  

Steve Price is on a 2-year contract anyway. So at this moment, he is out next year.

Re: CEO agrees season was a failure : Sat Oct 05, 2019 6:53 pm  

Builth Wells Wire wrote:

Steve Price is on a 2-year contract anyway. So at this moment, he is out next year.

No, he isn't. He extended until the end of 2021, didn't he?

Re: CEO agrees season was a failure : Sat Oct 05, 2019 7:05 pm  

Dita's Slot Meter wrote: No, he isn't. He extended until the end of 2021, didn't he? https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/41527641 Correct 2021 https://www.wirefm.com/news/local-sport ... nded-deal/

Dita's Slot Meter wrote: No, he isn't. He extended until the end of 2021, didn't he? https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/41527641 Correct 2021 https://www.wirefm.com/news/local-sport ... nded-deal/

Re: CEO agrees season was a failure : Sat Oct 05, 2019 7:36 pm  

Well contracts in sport don’t mean diddly these days except for how much compensation you get when sacked.