Re: CEO agrees season was a failure : Wed Oct 09, 2019 6:22 pm  

sally cinnamon wrote:

Yes, it would be a shame to not win the Grand Final but lets be honest the more likely scenario is we won't win a Grand Final in the next 10 years anyway

Out of interest I'd like to hear your rationale for this (I don't disagree)

Re: CEO agrees season was a failure : Wed Oct 09, 2019 6:33 pm  

Wires71 wrote:

Would you be happy with the next 10 years winning a CC but missing/bombing out of the playoffs...?

If Fitzpatrick stays running the show for that 10 year period then yes.
If I was running the show for that 10 year period then no.

Re: CEO agrees season was a failure : Wed Oct 09, 2019 9:31 pm  

Expectations are high. We spend the most money...results ought to reflect it.
My worry isn't Saints next season onwarda but Toronto.

Re: CEO agrees season was a failure : Thu Oct 10, 2019 7:54 am  

rubber duckie wrote:

Expectations are high. We spend the most money...results ought to reflect it.
My worry isn't Saints next season onwarda but Toronto.

How do you work out "we spend the most money". Surely we spend the same as St Helens, Wigan, Hull, Leeds and Catalan ... top Salary Cap. Unless of course you know something different?

Re: CEO agrees season was a failure : Thu Oct 10, 2019 8:04 am  

Smiffy27 wrote:

The nub of this is that we are all disappointed with our attack when in the opposition half. A new top class half back should help. Blake Austin is not a creative half back ... he's a runner. .

Ok, so if we all agree that a half back is either a creative type player or a runner, then the question has to be asked - what the **** is Dec Patton, because he is neither creative or a runner?

[Uncle Rico]

Re: CEO agrees season was a failure : Thu Oct 10, 2019 8:16 am  

Next year what Dec Patton is NOT (same as this year) is our first choice starting half back

Re: CEO agrees season was a failure : Thu Oct 10, 2019 8:29 am  

Smiffy27 wrote:

How do you work out "we spend the most money". Surely we spend the same as St Helens, Wigan, Hull, Leeds and Catalan ... top Salary Cap. Unless of course you know something different?

Because the marquee players only count as 150-175k on cap but we could be paying them a million each still only 175 on cap there are other cap exceptions like burrell so with Austin widdop and burrell we probably have close to 750k not counting on the cap... The whole were spending the same as every other club us a smoke screen

Re: CEO agrees season was a failure : Thu Oct 10, 2019 8:41 am  

Uncle Rico wrote:

Next year what Dec Patton is (same as this year) is our first choice starting half back

If that's the case, then you may as well fire Price now, because you aren't winning any SL title, or playing any free flowing rugby with him as one of your half backs.

Re: CEO agrees season was a failure : Thu Oct 10, 2019 8:57 am  

Dezzies_right_hook wrote:

Because the marquee players only count as 150-175k on cap but we could be paying them a million each still only 175 on cap there are other cap exceptions like burrell so with Austin widdop and burrell we probably have close to 750k not counting on the cap... The whole were spending the same as every other club us a smoke screen

So what about marquee players at other clubs? Do you know what they are on?

Re: CEO agrees season was a failure : Thu Oct 10, 2019 9:02 am  

Dita's Slot Meter wrote:

Ok, so if we all agree that a half back is either a creative type player or a runner, then the question has to be asked - what the **** is Dec Patton, because he is neither creative or a runner?

Sorry matey I don't go in for mindless bashing of players ... it's pathetic.
Dec Patton was our third choice half-back at the start of the year but the Brown injury scuppered that. The previous year he played OK as a back up hooker.