Re: OT Tyson Fury. : Wed Feb 26, 2020 12:16 am  

Charlie Sheen wrote:

He's only ever fought 2 top 10 HWs in his whole career. Apart from 2 obvious exceptions the competition he's beaten has been substandard.

So has Joshua, only quality guy he's fought is Klitchko and he put him on his butt and caused him a lot of trouble.. Heavyweight division has been awful for a long time and Joshua is just the best of slim pickings, and still wouldn't say he's the best out there he just hasn't fought the other big dogs yet.

Re: OT Tyson Fury. : Wed Feb 26, 2020 8:14 am  

Charlie Sheen wrote:

He's only ever fought 2 top 10 HWs in his whole career. Apart from 2 obvious exceptions the competition he's beaten has been substandard.

Took the heavy weight titles twice. What does it matter who he's fought in-between? To go unbeaten in any sport is incredible and there is no such thing as an easy fight.

He gets told who he fights and he's gone in the ring and come out a winner every time. Twice faced a world champion, twice walked away with his belts. He was robbed of the win in the first Wilder fight and taught him a lesson in the second.

Re: OT Tyson Fury. : Wed Feb 26, 2020 1:04 pm  

Charlie Sheen wrote:

He's only ever fought 2 top 10 HWs in his whole career. Apart from 2 obvious exceptions the competition he's beaten has been substandard.

So it's Fury's fault there's not many good heavyweights about, is it?

He could quite easily retire with every belt you could win with a professional record of 32-0-1.

Re: OT Tyson Fury. : Wed Feb 26, 2020 2:59 pm  

There were very few decent heavyweights around in the Lennox Lewis era, but people still talk about him as an all time great.

Re: OT Tyson Fury. : Wed Feb 26, 2020 3:16 pm  

Charlie Sheen wrote:

He's only ever fought 2 top 10 HWs in his whole career. Apart from 2 obvious exceptions the competition he's beaten has been substandard.

thats 1 more than his two nearest rivals have faced...

Re: OT Tyson Fury. : Wed Feb 26, 2020 5:28 pm  

Moe syslak wrote:

There were very few decent heavyweights around in the Lennox Lewis era, but people still talk about him as an all time great.

Surely that was the best era since Muhammed Ali was around. At least there was Lewis, Holyfield, Tyson, Bowe.

When Tyson was ko ing everyone in the 1980s who did he ever beat who was top class? An aging Larry Holmes?

Re: OT Tyson Fury. : Wed Feb 26, 2020 5:55 pm  

sally cinnamon wrote:

Surely that was the best era since Muhammed Ali was around. At least there was Lewis, Holyfield, Tyson, Bowe.

When Tyson was ko ing everyone in the 1980s who did he ever beat who was top class? An aging Larry Holmes?

I think Don King took selective opponents to another level. He wouldn’t let Holyfield near him for years.
Still Iron Mike at 20 was awesome, and a real scoop for ch4....who I think have a 4 fight deal..,and I think may have covered 2 unification fights, if not, I saw them somewhere....and he immortalised Tupac at the same time.

Re: OT Tyson Fury. : Wed Feb 26, 2020 6:39 pm  

rubber duckie wrote:

I think Don King took selective opponents to another level. He wouldn’t let Holyfield near him for years.
Still Iron Mike at 20 was awesome, and a real scoop for ch4....who I think have a 4 fight deal..,and I think may have covered 2 unification fights, if not, I saw them somewhere....and he immortalised Tupac at the same time.

Holyfield was down to have a shot at the title in 1990 but Tyson lost to Buster Douglas so Holyfield fought him instead. Then when Tyson was supposed to challenge Holyfield the next year, he was jailed.

In hindsight the Holyfield-Tyson rivalry was probably better to have been delayed. Given Tyson's lifestyle at the time, if he'd fought Holyfield in 1990/91 he would probably have been beaten badly.

Re: OT Tyson Fury. : Thu Feb 27, 2020 8:33 pm  

Charlie Sheen wrote:

He's only ever fought 2 top 10 HWs in his whole career. Apart from 2 obvious exceptions the competition he's beaten has been substandard.

This is a pretty incredible post.

A guy that has never lost.... who beat the undefeated Klitschko in Germany... Who came back from the brink of suicide to win the WBC World heavyweight title... having now held all the belts.... only the 2nd heavyweight to have held the ring magazine belt twice (the other was Muhammed Ali)... A man who hasn't ducked a fight in his entire life.

'yea but he hasn't fought anyone'

Jesus wept.

You win stupidest post of the year award... Go and sit in the corner, face the wall and never turnaround again... especially to watch boxing.

Re: OT Tyson Fury. : Thu Feb 27, 2020 8:44 pm  

What about Usain Bolt, name me some sprinters of note that he beat