Re: 2020 restart in doubt? : Tue Jul 07, 2020 6:12 pm  

Sally, that's all well and good, but like everybody else they are now living and working in totally different times economically.

Realistically, they only have 2 choices, less pay with more risks, or a future doing something else for a living, which, for the vast majority of them, will be a less proseprous one.

Re: 2020 restart in doubt? : Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:36 pm  

I’d play for nothing to be a Wire.
Feck em. Close the door on your way out.

Re: 2020 restart in doubt? : Wed Jul 08, 2020 1:57 am  

Dita's Slot Meter wrote:

Sally, that's all well and good, but like everybody else they are now living and working in totally different times economically.

A few weeks ago, Gary Hetherington and some of the struggling Yorkshire clubs were trying to get the league to cut the salary cap to reflect the financial pressures on clubs.

We opposed that and signed Greg Inglis.

Presumably at the time we made those decisions, we had checked that we were able to cover the existing players wages?

Re: 2020 restart in doubt? : Wed Jul 08, 2020 8:30 am  

rubber duckie wrote:

I’d play for nothing to be a Wire.
Feck em. Close the door on your way out.

No doubt most of us would, but I wouldn’t pay to see it!

Re: 2020 restart in doubt? : Wed Jul 08, 2020 11:48 am  

sally cinnamon wrote:

A few weeks ago, Gary Hetherington and some of the struggling Yorkshire clubs were trying to get the league to cut the salary cap to reflect the financial pressures on clubs.

We opposed that and signed Greg Inglis.

Presumably at the time we made those decisions, we had checked that we were able to cover the existing players wages?

If, when Inglis becomes employed by Wire, existing players are on reduced pay from their original contracts, then that is obviously wrong, however, are we certain that is the case?

It's said that 3 clubs have already come to agreements with their playing squads. Could Wire be one of those?... if so, then the Inglis argument is pretty irrelevant.

As for the argument about reduced pay for this season, then it's not like they are doing 'full hours' - the season is set to be reduced by a quarter, so a similar reduction in their pay for that period isn't that unfair?

Re: 2020 restart in doubt? : Wed Jul 08, 2020 1:18 pm  

If you took anything from Coops revelations, you’d think that he was pretty peeved. Make of it as you wish.

Re: 2020 restart in doubt? : Wed Jul 08, 2020 1:39 pm  

rubber duckie wrote:

If you took anything from Coops revelations, you’d think that he was pretty peeved. Make of it as you wish.

Any person, in any job, who is facing reduced pay will obviously be a little peeved.

Like I say though, if it's just for this short period covering this reduced season, then I can't see their complaint.

Take it on the chin like many other folk are having to do.

Re: 2020 restart in doubt? : Thu Jul 09, 2020 9:57 am  

Obviously we are not party to discussions specifically at Warrington so it's difficult to comment for or against either side. The directors at the club have a duty of care to only offer what the club can afford to pay and the players have to do what is right for their family. I don't think on the face of it that a 15% reduction till the end of the season is a bad deal, but of course the end of the season has been pushed back and could potentially get pushed back again, or we could see the season cancelled if the season is null and void following a nationwide second wave.

If fans do not get back in to the games at any point, it puts the club in a difficult position should the salary increase come in before the fans do. Maybe there needs to be an agreement that before fans are allowed in its a 15% reduction, with increases agreed as and when fans return.

I'm sure it will all get resolved, I just hope neither side holds the other to ransom, as it would cause deeper issues within the club.

Re: 2020 restart in doubt? : Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:03 am  

On Inglis, I agree this is for 2021 so the fact we signed him shouldn't come in to consideration for whether players accept a 2020 salary reduction to the end of the season. If the club are asking players to sign lower contracts for 2021, with COVD listed as the reason, yet still spending up to salary cap then that's a bit wrong in my book. But we don't know that that is the case, so we shouldn't assume.

[Uncle Rico]

Re: 2020 restart in doubt? : Thu Jul 09, 2020 11:33 am  

Alffi_7 wrote:

On Inglis, I agree this is for 2021 so the fact we signed him shouldn't come in to consideration for whether players accept a 2020 salary reduction to the end of the season. If the club are asking players to sign lower contracts for 2021, with COVD listed as the reason, yet still spending up to salary cap then that's a bit wrong in my book. But we don't know that that is the case, so we shouldn't assume.

Spot on Alffi.

The majority of of the country has felt the effects of this pandemic (despite some quacks on here likening it to a bout of flu that'll be sorted out by Dettol) from both a health and economic perspective.

It's therefore reasonable to expect that a club wide solution is put in place to safeguard the viability of the club including the player's medium and longer term futures and if that includes short term measures on pay then i'm sorry but that is the correct course of action IMO. As long as it is fair across the board not a 'scam' to increase profitability or pay for high profile new comers

Much will depend on the club getting close to realizing their full income stream and the confidence that there will be some new found stability when is the $64,000 question.