Re: Teams for the two Salford games : Sat Oct 03, 2020 6:29 pm  

Price was hired to win us the big one. He’s won us a Challenge Cup and has coached us to play some good rugby. He’s had a few goes at it and hasn’t brought it in yet. If he doesn’t, what’s the harm in looking around?

I think he can do it and I do think he will. But if he can’t, I can’t understand why we’d keep him.

Re: Teams for the two Salford games : Sat Oct 03, 2020 6:33 pm  

Team selection way off the mark, was rather arrogant fielding another half at lose forward for starters given the torrential conditions. Starting Ashton in such a big game is far to much of a risk to take, as he’s still raw and learning his trade in the side. We should be slowly blooding Ashton into the side not being selected over Ratchford, who brings a lot more from FB from an overall team perspective.

Far to many errors from the backs, Ashton, Widdop, Gelling, Austin. We don’t need to be taking high risk plays just play the percentage in those conditions & play for field position. We became nervous and didn’t look settled at all throughout that game.

Hasn’t Price and the coaching staff learned anything from wet weather Grand Final appearances already? Mind boggles..

Re: Teams for the two Salford games : Sat Oct 03, 2020 6:37 pm  

In terms of Price, yes we have been playing well since reatart and yes we narrowly got beat today and it could have gone either way.

But it's taken him two years to get the team playing with any flair and the squad is an embarassment of riches, and embarassment is the key word - I actually look at our squad and squirm in disbelief at some performances and our inability to win the big one.

Cooper, Hill, Ratchford, Austin & Clarke won't be around forever and in some cases will be past their peak relatively soon.

Yes, given the squad, if we fail to win the GF we only need to make one signing next year, and that's Ian Watson.

Re: Teams for the two Salford games : Sat Oct 03, 2020 6:39 pm  

Robwire wrote:

Price was hired to win us the big one. He’s won us a Challenge Cup and has coached us to play some good rugby. He’s had a few goes at it and hasn’t brought it in yet. If he doesn’t, what’s the harm in looking around?

I think he can do it and I do think he will. But if he can’t, I can’t understand why we’d keep him.

We, as a club, have never been ruthless enough with our coaches. Too much acceptance of failure.

I do want Price to win us this year's title. However, if he doesn't, then I think 3 years is ample time and we should take decisive action and bring in someone else.

Re: Teams for the two Salford games : Sat Oct 03, 2020 6:42 pm  

Dita's Slot Meter wrote:

We, as a club, have never been ruthless enough with our coaches. Too much acceptance of failure.

I do want Price to win us this year's title. However, if he doesn't, then I think 3 years is ample time and we should take decisive action and bring in someone else.

Absolutely. How long do we wait otherwise?

The difference with Saints and Wigan is they have that killer instinct that we seem to lack.

Re: Teams for the two Salford games : Sat Oct 03, 2020 6:43 pm  

Dita's Slot Meter wrote:

We, as a club, have never been ruthless enough with our coaches. Too much acceptance of failure.

I do want Price to win us this year's title. However, if he doesn't, then I think 3 years is ample time and we should take decisive action and bring in someone else.

Especially when you have the likes of Wilkin going on about the money Warrington have got, seems we can’t even buy a Grand Final win

Re: Teams for the two Salford games : Sat Oct 03, 2020 6:45 pm  

Just poor all round, speed counts for nothing in this weather, Ashton has speed and that's about it. Today was a forwards game. I would leave Ashton out rather than moving Ratchford from his best postion. Ratch had a great game at 13 so why Trial Austin there. Price just doesn't have the killer blow in him for me, he can do a lot with a team but not enough.
Some weird comments on here taking aim at Gelling saying he was awful and ineffective, take out the favoritism and take off the rose tinted specs and you'll see he did a hell of a lot of hard work today. Took in shed loads of drives and helped out the forwards.
Daryl Clark was none existant, Mamo, Charnley, Widdop and Ashton were none existant and ineffective, but yeah lets pin point Gelling who worked is butt off today.

Re: Teams for the two Salford games : Sat Oct 03, 2020 6:54 pm  

Or thane wrote:

Just poor all round, speed counts for nothing in this weather, Ashton has speed and that's about it. Today was a forwards game. I would leave Ashton out rather than moving Ratchford from his best postion. Ratch had a great game at 13 so why Trial Austin there. Price just doesn't have the killer blow in him for me, he can do a lot with a team but not enough.
Some weird comments on here taking aim at Gelling saying he was awful and ineffective, take out the favoritism and take off the rose tinted specs and you'll see he did a hell of a lot of hard work today. Took in shed loads of drives and helped out the forwards.
Daryl Clark was none existant, Mamo, Charnley, Widdop and Ashton were none existant and ineffective, but yeah lets pin point Gelling who worked is butt off today.

It's likely because he got driven back a lot but with nobody behind helping him out I'm not sure what else is expected in slippery conditions. I agree, Gelling did a shift.

Re: Teams for the two Salford games : Sat Oct 03, 2020 7:14 pm  

No rose tinted glasses, his defence today wasnt up to it. I'm not just talking about the try we conceded where 6ft plus Gelling watched someone else jump for the high ball. Watch his first contact and positional play. He looked out of sorts today to me

Re: Teams for the two Salford games : Sat Oct 03, 2020 7:14 pm  

Got what we deserved..... #### all
Poor team selection
Too many off key performances
Rudderless in the middle, and, I don't know about a plan b, we didn't even have a plan a.
Complacency from too many players. I saw more commitment from a group of youngsters on Tuesday night, than a team of internationals/MoS/NRL/marquee signings.

Now is when you earn your money, Price. Not an 8 /9 game mid season run. Let's not kid ourselves, bar a hard fought cup win against the plastic scousers, that run was made against mid table fodder, some of them scraped wins. Between 2010 and 2013, we were perceived as flat track bullies. We weren't. We were just better than the rest, but couldn't get the GF win.
Now, we're on a 2 game losing run.

The ball is in your court, Price.