12th Team. : Thu Nov 05, 2020 12:11 am  

So what’s the thinking,

Bradford = no
York = maybe
London = maybe
Toulouse = Yes
Featherstone = Yes
Leigh = No
Newcastle = maybe

Bradford no, because they had it big time big club big fan base and ruined by ownership. Now they have no ground
Leigh just because I dont like them lol
Toulouse seem to be well run same as York would nice to see someone else get a crack even Featherstone and Newcastle. I believe all these clubs have thrown their hat in the ring.

Re: 12th Team. : Thu Nov 05, 2020 12:15 am  

For me Toulouse is a no we don't need another French team. For me it's either London or Featherstone.
I think London will be the likely club, they were great in the comp last year and are ready made for Super League.

Re: 12th Team. : Thu Nov 05, 2020 8:45 am  

If it's decided on recent playing records I can't really see why it won't be London ... as they were the last club to be relegated. If it is not, there will have to be very good reasons. It needs to be decided quickly for planning purposes.
Whatever decisions are made the RFL will be accused of getting it wrong ... it's the way of the world.

Re: 12th Team. : Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:09 am  

I think that the Super League clubs will not want to dilute their current share of the Sky money.

Toronto was excluded from a share of the Sky pot, but a new club would want a share of it, in the current financial world that we are experiencing.

Re: 12th Team. : Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:19 am  

Boss Hog wrote:

I think that the Super League clubs will not want to dilute their current share of the Sky money.

Toronto was excluded from a share of the Sky pot, but a new club would want a share of it, in the current financial world that we are experiencing.

I think it has already been decided that they will be having 12 clubs ... so they will be losing a bit of the pot.

Re: 12th Team. : Thu Nov 05, 2020 10:06 am  

Personally I think Toulouse would be a shot in the arm for the game in France and over here.

Commercially they are probably the strongest option, they are surrounded by towns and villages that play rugby league so I think we will see an increase in the number of French players in the competition (albeit there will be plenty of English / NRL based players in their squad no doubt). I also think it gives us the best chance of increasing TV revenue.

Of the rest I think it's too early for York or Newcastle, they are progressing well and I think it's important they don't try to do too much too fast. Let them keep building foundations.

Bradford I'm sure will make it back up to SL eventually, but again I think it's too soon from their recent problems and they still have issues around Odsal and i'm not confident their owners have the financial clout to not see them in the same situation in a few years.

London have a good shout based on them being the last club to leave SL and the club that replaced them have been removed. But their stadium is poor for SL and despite having 70% of their current squad coming from their own academy being a great achievement, I think they will struggle on the field without serious investment.

Leigh could probably come in and sign a host of SL standard players and do a decent job.

Featherstone I'm not sure, there are already 2 clubs in that area, I'm not sure a third is the best option for the sport. If they win promotion fair enough, but I think if we are placing a team in, I'm not sure they are the option.

Halifax, no I don't think they would cope very well.

So I'd prefer Toulouse, if not them, London or Leigh I guess.

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Re: 12th Team. : Thu Nov 05, 2020 10:08 am  

I have to admit that I too thought the SL clubs would stick with 11 teams so as not to dilute the SKY monies, but it doesn't appear to be the case.


I think the infrastructure and financial backing is really important because the inclusion / promotion of a club in SL needs to be sustainable. Too often a club has an injection of funding, recruits top quality players and gains promotion, then the funding dries up and eventually they drop out or go back to the Championship.

The rise of York and Newcastle is really encouraging, but I think I would go with Toulouse. They play in a 19,000 capacity stadium that they share with RU in the centre of the city. I don't know who their backer is but if they are in a strong position then that would mean SL has two clubs in France with a bit of local rivalry and a chance of more TV coverage and money. I also think they should be given 2 years guaranteed in SL to establish themselves.

Added later;
Sorry Allfie, we seem to have penned a reply at virtually the same time but I was a couple of minutes later than you.

Re: 12th Team. : Thu Nov 05, 2020 10:10 am  

I love it that no one has mentioned our near neighbours.

Re: 12th Team. : Thu Nov 05, 2020 10:18 am  

TF and the wire wrote:

I love it that no one has mentioned our near neighbours.

haha fair point. I put them in a similar position to Bradford, they aren't in a position to come up yet after financial issues.

Re: 12th Team. : Thu Nov 05, 2020 10:36 am  

TF and the wire wrote:

I love it that no one has mentioned our near neighbours.

I think the "Stockton Heath Stumblers" side has folded!
I'd be surprised if London don't get in ... but I'd find Toulouse a bit more exciting.