[Fantastic Mr Catpiss]

Re: Assistant Coaches : Thu Apr 22, 2021 9:55 am  

Thing is austin has had a 50% fit bmm playing outside him for 2 years, he's been a big let down.

Yeah we've had the occasional barge over off an inside ball but for the most part it's been a tip on, and bmm gets tackled by a half back/centre combo.

And then you were into the roulette of him giving a penalty away in possession

[Fantastic Mr Catpiss]

Re: Assistant Coaches : Thu Apr 22, 2021 10:05 am  

Barbed Wire wrote:

The right side is a shambles. I’ve said on other threads about the vulnerability that having such a passive back rower brings to a team. And the centre, be it Mamo or Wrench so far or even Gelling last year, is there to plug a gap in the defensive line. They offer nothing in terms of a threat.

For as average as Austin has been, there needs to be some work on that side if we’re ever going to make genuine attempt at the GF. Inglis, if even half the player he used to be, will make a huge difference, but that back rower needs to act like a bulldozer in attack and really make defenders stop and take notice to create some room for the outside men.

I’d consider letting Robson have a go, or Longstaff. Both young, but not necessarily raw. They’re talented players. And all you need them to do is run that lead line at 100 miles an hour and defend for all you're worth. Hughes, good pro and all, but is a poor mans Ben Harrison. Lots of effort, good defender, but on an edge he’s just in the way.

Robson on loan to widnes.

Re: Assistant Coaches : Thu Apr 22, 2021 10:10 am  

When you watch Liam Farrell at Wigan he runs that same line constantly and has done for years. Genuinely can anyone ever remember Hughes hitting a line and breaking a tackle?

Re: Assistant Coaches : Thu Apr 22, 2021 10:37 am  

Lord Tony Smith wrote:

When you watch Liam Farrell at Wigan he runs that same line constantly and has done for years. Genuinely can anyone ever remember Hughes hitting a line and breaking a tackle?

Perhaps it’s not completely the running angle of the backrower, but some class from the passer to put him in the pocket. Even that said, I wouldn’t think twice about swapping Hughes for Farrell, and I like Hughes.

Re: Assistant Coaches : Thu Apr 22, 2021 10:47 am  

Lord Tony Smith wrote:

When you watch Liam Farrell at Wigan he runs that same line constantly and has done for years. Genuinely can anyone ever remember Hughes hitting a line and breaking a tackle?

Liam Farrell has been a class act for years. Not many have been as good as him. He has got pace and knows how to use it.

Re: Assistant Coaches : Thu Apr 22, 2021 11:21 am  

Alffi_7 wrote:

I think we're judging based off what they have done previously, Henderson was a coach I was pleased we brought in, as he had his London team playing some good stuff. Conversely Richard Agar had been sacked from Hull FC & Wakey and you couldn't find many fans that had a good word to say about him, so that impression was carried over to us.

Truth is, we don't really know what assistant coaches do day to day, and we don't know what influence they are having in the backroom, Henderson went from a head coach to an assistant, Agar went from Assistant to head coach of Leeds and a challenge cup winners medal - he can't be that bad?

Yes - agree with this.

I can easily imagine that Henderson has been frustrated with us.
He did well at London and I imagine he could see himself stepping up from assistant at Wire.
I hope he gets a shot at SL as first team coach.
If it works out, we could always have him back in a few years - should he want to come!

Re: Assistant Coaches : Thu Apr 22, 2021 11:33 am  

Lord Tony Smith wrote:

When you watch Liam Farrell at Wigan he runs that same line constantly and has done for years. Genuinely can anyone ever remember Hughes hitting a line and breaking a tackle?

Hughes is a Price captain, I'll be interested to see if Powell keeps a) that appointment and b) him. I said in another thread, Powell seems to like dynamic second rowers.

Re: Assistant Coaches : Thu Apr 22, 2021 11:46 am  

Philth wrote:

Hughes is a Price captain, I'll be interested to see if Powell keeps a) that appointment and b) him. I said in another thread, Powell seems to like dynamic second rowers.

I think everybody likes dynamic second rows.

[Fantastic Mr Catpiss]

Re: Assistant Coaches : Thu Apr 22, 2021 11:47 am  

Philth wrote:

Hughes is a Price captain, I'll be interested to see if Powell keeps a) that appointment and b) him. I said in another thread, Powell seems to like dynamic second rowers.

I dont know about dynamic but he definitely has had back rowers that are forwards and aggressive.

I hadn't considered this before but you wouldn't classify currie as a Powell type forward either

Re: Assistant Coaches : Thu Apr 22, 2021 12:17 pm  

Fantastic Mr Catpiss wrote:

I dont know about dynamic but he definitely has had back rowers that are forwards and aggressive.

I hadn't considered this before but you wouldn't classify currie as a Powell type forward either

Mike McMeeken is a very skilful SR (now at Catalan). I would think he is similar to Currie.