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: Sat Apr 25, 2009 3:07 pm  
A month ago I would have said Hobsn before Cookson.

Hobson for me has handed a chance to Cooky who should be in the 17 next match instead of Hobson.

Its up to Cookson to grab the chance and for Hill and Morrison to keep Hobson out

Hobson will come back and still will be an asset but 2nd man in and missed tackles loses his plave for me and thats what competition for places should be all about
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: Sat Apr 25, 2009 3:09 pm  
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A month ago I would have said Hobsn before Cookson.

Hobson for me has handed a chance to Cooky who should be in the 17 next match instead of Hobson.

Its up to Cookson to grab the chance and for Hill and Morrison to keep Hobson out

Hobson will come back and still will be an asset but 2nd man in and missed tackles loses his plave for me and thats what competition for places should be all about


Not much point having him in the 17 if he gets 2 10 minute spells were the hooker and H/B s only give him one pass every 18 ptb s
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: Sat Apr 25, 2009 3:21 pm  
Not quite sure what you are getting at but Its up to the player to put himself in the position to recieve the ball and the acting half back/first reciever to deliver. If we have the ball every 2 minutes then I would expect no less than 7 drives from each prop every 15 minutes and for each prop to to have at least 2 15 minute and 1 10 minute stint. Fitness and injurys would obviously dictate whether this was adhered to. If this does not happen then there is no point and we may aswell have no props who thrive on short aggressive stints.
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: Sat Apr 25, 2009 9:39 pm  
Cooky was limping somewhat after the reserve game today. There were also rumours emerging that Adam Thomas has started a loan spell with Rochdale.

I guess we'll find out for sure tomorrow.
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: Sun Apr 26, 2009 10:11 am  
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Cooky was limping somewhat after the reserve game today. There were also rumours emerging that Adam Thomas has started a loan spell with Rochdale.

I guess we'll find out for sure tomorrow.


he seemed to be limping, when he was carrying the water on, on Thirsday. Not fully recovered from his injury, yet?
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: Sun Apr 26, 2009 10:12 am  
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Not quite sure what you are getting at but Its up to the player to put himself in the position to recieve the ball and the acting half back/first reciever to deliver. If we have the ball every 2 minutes then I would expect no less than 7 drives from each prop every 15 minutes and for each prop to to have at least 2 15 minute and 1 10 minute stint. Fitness and injurys would obviously dictate whether this was adhered to. If this does not happen then there is no point and we may aswell have no props who thrive on short aggressive stints.


On the subject of 'spelling' props, I think Stuart Dickens did the full 80, on Thursday! Incredible effort, that, or did we just not tire him enough? :wink:
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: Sun Apr 26, 2009 10:40 am  
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On the subject of 'spelling' props, I think Stuart Dickens did the full 80, on Thursday! Incredible effort, that, or did we just not tire him enough? :wink:


bit of both i suspect
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That couldn’t be done, and he did it!

: Sun Apr 26, 2009 10:43 am  
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On the subject of 'spelling' props, I think Stuart Dickens did the full 80, on Thursday! Incredible effort, that, or did we just not tire him enough? :wink:


But that's the point Alan , if you have ' impact props ' you have to use them to give your other forwards a rest , they dont necessarily have to leave the pitch to get this rest

But if you bring a changeover player on and still give the ball to a forward that started the game then it is a waste of time bringing that player on

As regards defensive duties , that is beyond the control of any player , the attacking team decides who tackles who , they generally look to tire certain players by spotting them [ Mr Abrams main game plan I seem to remember ]

So I would think it unlikely that most teams ' spot ' a spelling prop

Also you look to ' match ' up attackers and defenders , ie Rob Burrows will tend to run at the bigger slower players and you want your bigger forwards to target the opposition H/B s , hooker

We scored a try on thursday when Hilly was left out of the scrum and ran out wide , Saints did something similar I think with graham on friday

What I do know is it is very difficult to ' switch on and off ' playing to certain styles of RL , ' catch up RL ' is the term when you have to start playing off the cuff to score a certain number of points in a given time span

Quite often players end up making themselves look stupid because of how much they are trying to push the game , this then transmits to the fans who get frustrated by mistakes made by players pushing things too far
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