Re: Squads - Leopards v Wolves : Tue Sep 03, 2024 3:26 pm  

It just goes to show that sporting disappointment can cloud both sound judgment and logic. Thereafter its just the herd response to a perceived injustice.

Some fans from other clubs just need to calm down and take their blinkers off.

Re: Squads - Leopards v Wolves : Tue Sep 03, 2024 3:47 pm  

Another thing Burgess said, that has been repeated on various podcasts is that they scored 12 points to our 10 after the red card. Winds the pedant in me up, as it was only 4-0 when the red was given.

Re: Squads - Leopards v Wolves : Tue Sep 03, 2024 4:51 pm  

The present rules for head-on tackling mean that contact must ONLY be below the shoulder and above the knee. Why stand upright when effecting a tackle unless you're asking for a card?

Re: Squads - Leopards v Wolves : Tue Sep 03, 2024 7:43 pm  

Bent&Bongser wrote:

The present rules for head-on tackling mean that contact must ONLY be below the shoulder and above the knee. Why stand upright when effecting a tackle unless you're asking for a card?

The answer is to tackle in one of 3 ways:

1. Wrap the arms and drop back with the ball carrier
2. Wrap the thighs together and Walmsley will go down like a tree
3. Aim for the stomach and go up through the ribs from a crouching position

Never liked the stand-up and wrestle with 3 in the tackle.

Re: Squads - Leopards v Wolves : Wed Sep 04, 2024 1:24 am  

I said on a facebook post the moment I saw this tackle that it was a straight red because,
1. Direct and forceful contact to the head with the left shoulder.
2. The head is first point of contact, no deflection from the ball or any other source.
3. Trout is a tall guy and has not lost significant height or is in the process of significantly losing height in the tackle,
4. Vaughn is stood almost upright and promoting his left shoulder into contact with the head, and the left arm is not in the process of wrapping as he makes contact.
5. Trout’s head clearly jolts forcefully backwards as contact is made.
6. Vaughn follows up with a forearm to the head/face once Trouts head is against the ground, compounding the potential for injury after the initial forceful head contact.
7. Trout is clearly stunned as the trainer talks to him. The fact that he cleared concussion protocol tests subsequently means he was fit to return to the field of play later, not fit to stay on the field at the time.
Burgess should be hauled up and made an example of. What he said not only called in to question the honesty and integrity of Trout and all the Leigh players, it also showed a total lack of respect to the referee, video referee, and the RFL. At a time when spectators are being constantly reminded ( and rightfully so) of the need for respect to referees and all persons at rugby grounds, how can he go on sky and be allowed to say what he did without sanction.
And then they have the cheek to go to the appeal and plead guilty and ask for a reduced sentence !!!

Re: Squads - Leopards v Wolves : Wed Sep 04, 2024 9:39 am  

The talk about players staying down is frustrating as well. Basically saying a foul has been committed but should've got away with it.

Re: Squads - Leopards v Wolves : Wed Sep 04, 2024 12:01 pm  

Vancouver Leyther wrote:

I said on a facebook post the moment I saw this tackle that it was a straight red because,
1. Direct and forceful contact to the head with the left shoulder.
2. The head is first point of contact, no deflection from the ball or any other source.
3. Trout is a tall guy and has not lost significant height or is in the process of significantly losing height in the tackle,
4. Vaughn is stood almost upright and promoting his left shoulder into contact with the head, and the left arm is not in the process of wrapping as he makes contact.
5. Trout’s head clearly jolts forcefully backwards as contact is made.
6. Vaughn follows up with a forearm to the head/face once Trouts head is against the ground, compounding the potential for injury after the initial forceful head contact.
7. Trout is clearly stunned as the trainer talks to him. The fact that he cleared concussion protocol tests subsequently means he was fit to return to the field of play later, not fit to stay on the field at the time.
Burgess should be hauled up and made an example of. What he said not only called in to question the honesty and integrity of Trout and all the Leigh players, it also showed a total lack of respect to the referee, video referee, and the RFL. At a time when spectators are being constantly reminded ( and rightfully so) of the need for respect to referees and all persons at rugby grounds, how can he go on sky and be allowed to say what he did without sanction.
And then they have the cheek to go to the appeal and plead guilty and ask for a reduced sentence !!!

They had a warning when Harrison was sent off against Saints, also for failing to bend into the tackle. Burgess for some reason thought that would be a yellow as well. Maybe if more people read the rules...

Re: Squads - Leopards v Wolves : Mon Sep 09, 2024 6:37 am  

Septimius Severus wrote: I have lived and worked with the Wire folk for over 20 years, and mostly live in a Rugby League harmony. This week is very different, and accusations of cheating and robbing the Wolves of the title have come from both neighbours and colleagues. Most of stuff being spouted was from Sam Burgess and David Cain https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNCHP08FEFg I see Drinkwater is getting stick for "acting" now. I await castigation of him from Sam & Dave

Septimius Severus wrote: I have lived and worked with the Wire folk for over 20 years, and mostly live in a Rugby League harmony. This week is very different, and accusations of cheating and robbing the Wolves of the title have come from both neighbours and colleagues. Most of stuff being spouted was from Sam Burgess and David Cain https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNCHP08FEFg I see Drinkwater is getting stick for "acting" now. I await castigation of him from Sam & Dave

Re: Squads - Leopards v Wolves : Mon Sep 09, 2024 9:03 pm  

Sam and Dave "Hold On, I'm Coming"