: Sat Mar 28, 2009 2:00 pm  

joanne callotte wrote:

i meant "response" to the incident, NOT what they said to you

Fair do's

[Dick Jones]

: Sat Mar 28, 2009 2:39 pm  

I think Starbug was refering to the cars that turned up a long time after the incident and just parked up and did nothing. There was 2 vans 2 motorbikes, an ambulance and about 8 Police cars.

: Sat Mar 28, 2009 3:08 pm  

As a Police Officer, it would appear that the ones questioning the Police's actions have no idea about investigating a crime scene.

Oweing to the fact that it was a tragic fatal road traffic incident, there are all manner of people that need to attend the scene.

The initial response officers, traffic patrols, senior investigating officers, cid, collision reconstruction unit, further officers to help maintain a sterile cordon so the matter can be investigated thoroughly, to name but a few.

All these people will be coming from different places and distances, thus the time it takes to get there. The collision reconstruction unit for instance, investigate serious and fatal accidents, they are massively important in securing convictions and explaining what has happened at the scene. The officer will have been on call and will have had to then make his way to the scene.

We must not forget that this is a tragedy for all concerned and the Police will do their upmost to investigate the matter.

: Sat Mar 28, 2009 3:14 pm  

that was not the only bad smash in leigh last night there was one on wigan rd

: Sat Mar 28, 2009 3:33 pm  

Furry Mound wrote:

As a Police Officer, it would appear that the ones questioning the Police's actions have no idea about investigating a crime scene.

Oweing to the fact that it was a tragic fatal road traffic incident, there are all manner of people that need to attend the scene.

The initial response officers, traffic patrols, senior investigating officers, cid, collision reconstruction unit, further officers to help maintain a sterile cordon so the matter can be investigated thoroughly, to name but a few.

All these people will be coming from different places and distances, thus the time it takes to get there. The collision reconstruction unit for instance, investigate serious and fatal accidents, they are massively important in securing convictions and explaining what has happened at the scene. The officer will have been on call and will have had to then make his way to the scene.

We must not forget that this is a tragedy for all concerned and the Police will do their upmost to investigate the matter.

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i suspect the original poster of this thread had a few beers last night, and didn't grasp the seriousness of the situation

: Sat Mar 28, 2009 5:01 pm  

joanne callotte wrote:

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i suspect the original poster of this thread had a few beers last night, and didn't grasp the seriousness of the situation

yes I'd had a couple but not enough to cloud what was on view , I am fully aware that different people have different jobs to do , but I would suggest that the officers I witnessed were not executing these tasks but were standing chatting

As I said the last one I saw arrive just joined in the line along the cordoned off area and did not even walk over to where the actual incident had taken place

As they were telling everybody to detour via Mather lane then hopefully there were some other officers patrolling around that detour to make sure that many of the youngish children and teenagers that would have had to go that way got home safely

Or maybe not

: Sun Mar 29, 2009 12:28 am  

I can't comment on what other Officers were doing, but I can assure you that the Officers at the scene would not have been neglecting other duties.

It bothers me that people think the Police are somehow not allowed to be normal human beings. Being seen eating in public is a terrible offence for a Police Officer as somewhere there are old women being burgled and children being neglected and proper criminals that need to be caught etc. How dare the Police Officer, eat or drink or go to the toilet, during duty time otherwise known as when people say "I'm paying your wages"!

God forbid, a Police Officer, spend a couple of minutes out of their busy shift to speak to a colleague, having offered their services to assist in what will amount to be a massive investigation.

If people put into context what they do whilst they are at work, then this is exactly the same as the Police. Do office workers stop to say hello to colleagues as they pass in the corridor, do builders stop working to have their dinner.... I could go on.

It realy grates on me that we continue to serve people who have nothing better to do than to moan about the service we provide. Yes, it may not always be to the standard some people would want, but what company can offer 100% satisfaction constantly.

Give the guys a break and respect the fact that there are people out there 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, putting their lives on the line and that every now and again, take two minutes to relax and talk to colleagues, never knowing when the radio is going to call next!

Soap box put away.............for now!

[Dick Jones]

: Sun Mar 29, 2009 8:56 am  

Lets put it another way , the alternate route for an 18 year old girl who lives in Etherstone Street, whos no money for a taxi, as shes been Barbs and only lives a stones throw away, is to go up Bedford and Down Mather Lane(how safe would that be) or walk down Twist Lane and up the bypass. Did anyone ensure it was a safe route?

[mish]

: Sun Mar 29, 2009 9:40 am  

Well if it was a member of my family who had been mown down I would grateful that the police had taken every care to investigate the circumstances.
I don't think any of us would be happy if the road was cleared quickly just for the sake of people being 'a bit late home'! Here's a man who will never get the chance to go home again - I bet his family wished he'd just had to take a bit of a detour.

For the record, I don't see any harm in clearing a passage so that pedestrians can go past.

: Sun Mar 29, 2009 9:57 am  

And on the other hand Leigh Rd in Boothstown was closed yesterday for what looked to me to be a relatively minor shunt. Both vehicles had been moved to the side of the road. All parties looked to be walking around but there were three police vehicles two ambulances and not a lot happening apart from the police diverting traffic. The vehicles were not even blocking the highway. But then again I was a disgruntled driver who had been diverted and didn't know all the facts.