Re: questions for : Sun Jun 07, 2009 8:17 pm  

frankb wrote:

Well I agree with the original poster.

Re franchising well I,m not an "expansionist" as I have posted on numerous occassions. I think London ,whatever they are called now, started playing when I was a sought after 20 something year old. OK maybe not sought after but I had long hair.

Despite crowds dropping if this ludicrous gamble continus in 2012 we all know it,s Toulouse and Gateshead.

Expansionists get with it. RL is and always will be a regional sport.

Result from yesterday... South Dorset Giants 10, Exeter Centurions 28. The local paper phoned me this morning to get the match report. We're playing Exeter University in a SW Cup match on Wednesday (I coach both teams so I'll be busy!). There'll be a full match report, and weekend preview, in Friday's paper.

Meanwhile England Lionhearts have selected East Devon Eagles' Tony Emmis as their captain for the Home internationals. Eagles' Rich Cadywould, the National Conference Player of the Year 2008, is in at scrum half.

So come down here and say that.

Re: Questions For You all : Sun Jun 07, 2009 9:15 pm  

WHERESYERBALL wrote:

So have Halifax gone sh*t or bust this season?
I say YES and so have Barrow BUT only one side can win things so what happens to them next season?.

Sorry to dissapoint but i think we will be even better next season. Most of the squad already tied up and a couple of big signings, i reckon we will go ok.

On the game today it looked to me like you were missing a blockbusting forward in the Mark Roberts mould to make the defence work.

Re: questions for : Sun Jun 07, 2009 9:40 pm  

[quote="Wembley71"]Result from yesterday... South Dorset Giants 10, Exeter Centurions 28. The local paper phoned me this morning to get the match report. We're playing Exeter University in a SW Cup match on Wednesday (I coach both teams so I'll be busy!). There'll be a full match report, and weekend preview, in Friday's paper.


Don,t get me wrong I think RL is far preferable to kick and clap. I,m all in favour of our game spreading. I prefer RL to any sport but franchising is destroying our professional game at its heart and its TV driven because of the money paid to the presently top clubs.

Football won,t ever have to worry wether I like it or not as most kids prefer to play and watch that. RU at least spread the TV and sponshorship money around. Thats where our "leadership"are going wrong.

Expansion yes, but if you don,t help other clubs in the heartlands outside Non relegation league, the code we follow won,t last long.

Re: Questions For You all : Sun Jun 07, 2009 10:08 pm  

Greg Florimos Boots wrote:

On the game today it looked to me like you were missing a blockbusting forward in the Mark Roberts mould to make the defence work.

IMO he was absolute PANTS for us last year.......

Re: Questions For You all : Sun Jun 07, 2009 11:41 pm  

Bartholemew Smythe wrote:

IMO he was absolute PANTS for us last year.......

For the large part Mark wasn't great last year - particularly defensively when he was all at sea, but I think he's one of those players that goes well at other clubs and he was darned effective running at our line in the second half.

: Mon Jun 08, 2009 9:36 am  

Bloody hell, it doesn't take much to get on to franchising, does it?

I think I said at the start of the season that we'd manage top 6 - just - but that next year would be the vital one. I still think that whoever wins things this year will be in trouble when the franchising decisions are made next time.

: Mon Jun 08, 2009 9:52 am  

Scooter Nik wrote:

Bloody hell, it doesn't take much to get on to franchising, does it?

I think I said at the start of the season that we'd manage top 6 - just - but that next year would be the vital one. I still think that whoever wins things this year will be in trouble when the franchising decisions are made next time.

How do you come to that conclusion?

: Mon Jun 08, 2009 11:24 am  

Scooter Nik wrote:

Bloody hell, it doesn't take much to get on to franchising, does it?

I think I said at the start of the season that we'd manage top 6 - just - but that next year would be the vital one. I still think that whoever wins things this year will be in trouble when the franchising decisions are made next time.

I know where you are coming from there. Having a top squad 2 or 3 years running then getting potted for Timbuktoo in the franchise race will have serious effects for that club.

Now before Fax fans slate me, bear with me.

We (Leigh) know from experience that crowds of around 2500 are not enough to fund a decent team without additional funding. Starbug will know better but its no secret that our teams from 2000-2004 were subsidised by the Board.

I've not looked at Fax's overall average this season but I dont think they are hitting 2500 despite the great results and rugby they are playing. If they are, fair enough but even that isnt enough income. An average crowd of 2500 will get you an approximate income from gates alone in the region of £300k. Thats not much to run a squad of their calibre.

The point is, I would be very very suprised if Fax's incomce wasn't being supplimented by significant Director loans and investment. It's not a dig, it's realism.

I'd be delighted if 'one of our lot' was awarded a franchise, it would restore a bit of faith back into the game. But what if they don't? Will the money still be invested in clubs like Leigh, Fax, Widnes, etc?

[Dick Jones]

: Mon Jun 08, 2009 11:27 am  

Alexs Dad wrote:

I know where you are coming from there. Having a top squad 2 or 3 years running then getting potted for Timbuktoo in the franchise race will have serious effects for that club.

Now before Fax fans slate me, bear with me.

We (Leigh) know from experience that crowds of around 2500 are not enough to fund a decent team without additional funding. Starbug will know better but its no secret that our teams from 2000-2004 were subsidised by the Board.

I've not looked at Fax's overall average this season but I dont think they are hitting 2500 despite the great results and rugby they are playing. If they are, fair enough but even that isnt enough income. An average crowd of 2500 will get you an approximate income from gates alone in the region of £300k. Thats not much to run a squad of their calibre.

The point is, I would be very very suprised if Fax's incomce wasn't being supplimented by significant Director loans and investment. It's not a dig, it's realism.



It has to be and that dirctor/directors must be utting a fair old whack in every week too


I'd be delighted if 'one of our lot' was awarded a franchise, it would restore a bit of faith back into the game. But what if they don't? Will the money still be invested in clubs like Leigh, Fax, Widnes, etc?

: Mon Jun 08, 2009 12:09 pm  

Alexs Dad wrote:

I know where you are coming from there. Having a top squad 2 or 3 years running then getting potted for Timbuktoo in the franchise race will have serious effects for that club.

Now before Fax fans slate me, bear with me.

We (Leigh) know from experience that crowds of around 2500 are not enough to fund a decent team without additional funding. Starbug will know better but its no secret that our teams from 2000-2004 were subsidised by the Board.

I've not looked at Fax's overall average this season but I dont think they are hitting 2500 despite the great results and rugby they are playing. If they are, fair enough but even that isnt enough income. An average crowd of 2500 will get you an approximate income from gates alone in the region of £300k. Thats not much to run a squad of their calibre.
The point is, I would be very very suprised if Fax's incomce wasn't being supplimented by significant Director loans and investment. It's not a dig, it's realism.

I'd be delighted if 'one of our lot' was awarded a franchise, it would restore a bit of faith back into the game. But what if they don't? Will the money still be invested in clubs like Leigh, Fax, Widnes, etc?

We are currently running on an overall average of 2229 which is not good enough. We do have some of the bigger teams with better away support still to visit us however.