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Re: Bradford Away : Sat Feb 27, 2016 12:47 pm  
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I agree with this mostly Snowy.

The forwards line up is head & shoulders above anything our Great Club has ever had before.



We have a very good pack but the best we have had? No.
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Re: Bradford Away : Sat Feb 27, 2016 6:15 pm  
With so many of our backs out we could struggle to score so our defence will need to be much better. Last season Bradford were very good at offloading the ball, we'll need to wrap them up in the tackle, stop one man tackles & start helping each other make tackles.
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Re: Bradford Away : Sat Feb 27, 2016 10:29 pm  
I think we will lose tonorrow by not very many
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Re: Bradford Away : Sat Feb 27, 2016 10:30 pm  
Win by 30
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Re: Bradford Away : Sat Feb 27, 2016 11:42 pm  
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We have a very good pack but the best we have had? No.

Name one better ?
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Re: Bradford Away : Sat Feb 27, 2016 11:52 pm  
1963 & 1982 for starters.
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Re: Bradford Away : Sun Feb 28, 2016 1:07 am  
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1963 & 1982 for starters.

So, in 53 & 34 years since those 2 teams there has been no advancement in player size, technique, fitness, speed or stamina ? Let alone advances in coaching, structure, plays etc ?

Come on reffy ..... have a word.

These players we have now * in the forwards * (and backs) are far superior to any that have gone before.

I am too young to know about the 63 side & only remember the 82 side through a young lad of 11's eyes *& yes 82 was a very good year* but like anything you can care to mention, cars, technology, household appliances, times change, things progress, develop & improve, same with humans & athletes.

Those players of 63 & 82 couldn't cope against this current team, forwards or backs.
Only John Woods, Des Drummond & Mick Stacey stand out immediately as special *there will be a few others I know less of*, maybe Ray Tabern & Steve Donlan, Alex Murphy (in his day) was fantastic but even he would be overshadowed back to back with a modern day equivalent.

Forwards, who is better than Patterson, Weston, Hansen, Matuia, Hock, Spencer, MoiMoi, Hopkins, Emmit & Barlow from 63, or 82 ?

You'll be telling me that thick, fat lump Tim Street was World Class next.
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Re: Bradford Away : Sun Feb 28, 2016 9:54 am  
You can only benchmark against the era you are in, we have the best pack in the Championship but in 82 that pack was winning the top tier - should this pack do the same then they can be compared.
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Re: Bradford Away : Sun Feb 28, 2016 9:56 am  
You can't compare teams of different eras when talking about the best pack, end of argument. You can only compare like with like, however if you are saying that Moi Moi is a better forward now than the likes of Mick Martyn , Stan Owen and others were in their prime then you are surely joking. A rampaging Martyn doing 80 minutes, Moi Moi having a breather after every run and sitting down for half a game, your argument is lost.
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Re: Bradford Away : Sun Feb 28, 2016 10:47 am  
Our defence in our own 20 is woeful, and I would expect Bratfort to put 40 past us. On recent performances Bradford by 18 or more.

Hope I'm wrong.
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