Re: Fev 16 Leigh 30 : Sun May 29, 2022 4:27 pm  

Bent&Bongser wrote:

Second half, yes. Pleased for everyone and especially Ipape & Beaumont (the latter of which noticeably took very much a back seat today).

National Anthem was embarassing! After that the day improved.

Did you manage to get a stream, Vanners?

What was wrong with the National Anthem?

Re: Fev 16 Leigh 30 : Sun May 29, 2022 5:56 pm  

My few pennies worth:

Asiata wasn't his usual reliable rock, had quite a few handling errors, but again much like Inu last week, hopefully that's his one bad game out of the way.

Nene still looks a bit lazy in defence if people come on his inside but nothing will beat him otherwise.

While the ref can make questionable calls about height of tackles, lying on etc, you adapt to it, there is no excuse for giving up yards for dissent and something that needs to be cut out.

Otherwise the first half was two teams, nervous, feeling each other out, I'd give Fev a bit more credit for the first half. In the second we just we up through the gears and that purple 20 minutes or so was enough for the game.

McDermott now knows he either needs extra bigger, stronger props or he's going to have to get them on some major cardio training for the rest of the season.

Hall needs no more extra praise and I was nervous every time Kheirallah got the ball, its just a shame he made an error at the end because I don't think that ball was ever going to get across the line.

It is hard not to be confident after that performance but best not to get cocky and this is where I think having Lam and Chester comes into its own.

Re: Fev 16 Leigh 30 : Sun May 29, 2022 10:58 pm  

Bartholemew Smythe wrote:

What was wrong with the National Anthem?

Nothing wrong with it for me, it was a pleasant change
to hear a woman end with “Queen” rather than screech of Qwiyn”.

Re: Fev 16 Leigh 30 : Mon May 30, 2022 5:43 am  

Having now seen the BBC coverage of the game, I really do think that we now hold the stronger cards going into the second half of the season. Some opinions on the game and some player, but I want to say that the whole team stepped up to win that game.
Ben Reynolds - I have been a defender of him in the past and he always works his booty off, but I have also said that I wonder if he lacks the off the cuff factor that the best halfbacks have, and that he should take the line on more. There have been questions also on his positional kicking and his ability to step up in the big games. Well Saturday showed that he is the man for the job, with a brilliantly controlled display in attack and defence. Together with Mellor, he is one of, if not the best defensive half’s in the game and they are now balancing the duties very well. His kick for Inu’s first try was pin-point, his try was a fantastic show and go, with a change of speed that surprised the defence. Overall this was his best game so far.
Krishna Inu - A must have in the big games. He looks fit, fast, strong and very focused right now. He had his kicking boots on and his try was a thing of beauty. His desire to take the ball into contact, and the effort needed to stop him also stood out.
Adam Sidlow - leads from the front and long minutes in the game. A vital part of a very dominant pack. His last ditch diving tackle when Fev were at do or die time and had broken our line, secured us the win. He does need to control his emotions at times, but it is that emotion that also stands out in his desire and work rate.
Kai O’Donnell - I said when we announced him that he would be a strong addition to our pack, and he is now really showing his worth. He runs hard, tackles harder, and is always looking to back up the runner. He is another who works non-stop and will never back down.
Edwin Ipape - our game breaker and in my opinion the best hooker in the Championship. His engine is endless. He also has a great eye for a gap and the best change of pace and side step to get through it. When you watch him run he also has a massive stride for his height, and great upper body strength, that make him hard to tackle. Add to that his power in the tackle and his willingness to sprint in and make sure tackled players go to ground, then bounce up and be back in the line for the next runner. He has it all for a #9.
General points.
Our pack is the best in the league and we still have Green to come. It’s a long time since we had a pack that made so many meters and defended so well.
Our back line is huge, but fit, fast and mobile. Ferguson, Inu and MacDonald take some putting down and set a great foundation to start our sets. Aekins is also a beauty and a constant threat. His ball to Ferguson was fantastic and he comes up with those passes time and time again.
Adrian Lam knows his players, knows how to win games, and the team obviously enjoys playing for him. It is also obvious that Chris Chester rightly has Lam’s respect and an influence in how the team plays.
Overall, a long way to go and no chickens being counted, but I believe we have the measure of Fev in every area of the game right now but it is fine margins. Squad rotation will be key from here onwards and we now have the squad to do just that, and the coach to manage it.
More to come from Fev when Ford settles in, but more to come from us also I believe.
Well done to Derek for making this possible but we now need to push on, fix the small areas that showed occasionally today (discipline can still be improved and the odd gap appeared in the middle in the second half but mostly from broken play) and keep fine tuning.
Happy Leyther here

Re: Fev 16 Leigh 30 : Mon May 30, 2022 9:14 am  

Totally agreed VL. I have just said a lot of the same things on the Ben Reynolds thread.

The only exception for me is your view of Ford. I simply do not rate the player. I am more then happy that Fev have signed him. For a big man he shirks the physicality required in a game. His defense is poor which is surprising given his size.

In attack he generally just ships the ball out, and sometimes he appears to do it to avoid being hit and tackled with the ball. The other thing as well, is that he did not cut it in Australia and has spent most of his career playing in France at sub-championship level where perhaps defensive weaknesses such as his are not so ruthlessly exploited. I simply do not think that he has the game to kill us in the games that count.

Ford is not the answer to Fev's prayers. I was quite happy to see them sign him. My view is that, if his signing is the height of their ambition, then we are going to finish above them this season. I don't think that he actually adds to what they already had in that position. Bad signing on their part.

Re: Fev 16 Leigh 30 : Mon May 30, 2022 10:38 am  

Bent&Bongser wrote:

Second half, yes. Pleased for everyone and especially Ipape & Beaumont (the latter of which noticeably took very much a back seat today).

National Anthem was embarassing! After that the day improved.

Did you manage to get a stream, Vanners?

The main embarrassing pathetic singing was from our own fans.Instead of behaving like sheep i wish our fans would turn on the instigators and kick em out

Re: Fev 16 Leigh 30 : Mon May 30, 2022 10:46 am  

Vancouver Leyther wrote:

Having now seen the BBC coverage of the game, I really do think that we now hold the stronger cards going into the second half of the season. Some opinions on the game and some player, but I want to say that the whole team stepped up to win that game.
Ben Reynolds - I have been a defender of him in the past and he always works his booty off, but I have also said that I wonder if he lacks the off the cuff factor that the best halfbacks have, and that he should take the line on more. There have been questions also on his positional kicking and his ability to step up in the big games. Well Saturday showed that he is the man for the job, with a brilliantly controlled display in attack and defence. Together with Mellor, he is one of, if not the best defensive half’s in the game and they are now balancing the duties very well. His kick for Inu’s first try was pin-point, his try was a fantastic show and go, with a change of speed that surprised the defence. Overall this was his best game so far.
Krishna Inu - A must have in the big games. He looks fit, fast, strong and very focused right now. He had his kicking boots on and his try was a thing of beauty. His desire to take the ball into contact, and the effort needed to stop him also stood out.
Adam Sidlow - leads from the front and long minutes in the game. A vital part of a very dominant pack. His last ditch diving tackle when Fev were at do or die time and had broken our line, secured us the win. He does need to control his emotions at times, but it is that emotion that also stands out in his desire and work rate.
Kai O’Donnell - I said when we announced him that he would be a strong addition to our pack, and he is now really showing his worth. He runs hard, tackles harder, and is always looking to back up the runner. He is another who works non-stop and will never back down.
Edwin Ipape - our game breaker and in my opinion the best hooker in the Championship. His engine is endless. He also has a great eye for a gap and the best change of pace and side step to get through it. When you watch him run he also has a massive stride for his height, and great upper body strength, that make him hard to tackle. Add to that his power in the tackle and his willingness to sprint in and make sure tackled players go to ground, then bounce up and be back in the line for the next runner. He has it all for a #9.
General points.
Our pack is the best in the league and we still have Green to come. It’s a long time since we had a pack that made so many meters and defended so well.
Our back line is huge, but fit, fast and mobile. Ferguson, Inu and MacDonald take some putting down and set a great foundation to start our sets. Aekins is also a beauty and a constant threat. His ball to Ferguson was fantastic and he comes up with those passes time and time again.
Adrian Lam knows his players, knows how to win games, and the team obviously enjoys playing for him. It is also obvious that Chris Chester rightly has Lam’s respect and an influence in how the team plays.
Overall, a long way to go and no chickens being counted, but I believe we have the measure of Fev in every area of the game right now but it is fine margins. Squad rotation will be key from here onwards and we now have the squad to do just that, and the coach to manage it.
More to come from Fev when Ford settles in, but more to come from us also I believe.
Well done to Derek for making this possible but we now need to push on, fix the small areas that showed occasionally today (discipline can still be improved and the odd gap appeared in the middle in the second half but mostly from broken play) and keep fine tuning.
Happy Leyther here

Do you think we would have beat Huddersfield ?.The winning difference was the pace the pies have which will always keep them in a game and proved decisive in the end

The main game had some terrible kicking and poor attacking play. wingers seem happy to fling the ball inside or kick it instead of going for the corner

Re: Fev 16 Leigh 30 : Mon May 30, 2022 11:21 am  

satanicmills wrote:

Do you think we would have beat Huddersfield ?.The winning difference was the pace the pies have which will always keep them in a game and proved decisive in the end

The main game had some terrible kicking and poor attacking play. wingers seem happy to fling the ball inside or kick it instead of going for the corner

No

Re: Fev 16 Leigh 30 : Mon May 30, 2022 1:42 pm  

No, for me as well, even with my cherry and white flat cap on. From what i saw of Huddersfield at first hand on Saturday i was quite impressed by the way that they played. They looked like a good rugby team moving the ball nicely through their half backs and at pace and, i have to be honest, are some way better then Leigh - for the moment. The pace of the main game was some way quicker than ours. But, as we all know on this site, Leigh are a work in progress and are getting slowly better.

Will we be as good as the likes of Huddersfield by the end of this season - no, we will not but, the gap will have closed more of that i am certain.

Anyway, let's not get ahead of ourselves. We are at present a championship side and we just have to be the best in our division come the final game of this season. The likes of Huddersfield can wait.

Re: Fev 16 Leigh 30 : Mon May 30, 2022 2:28 pm  

satanicmills wrote:

The main embarrassing pathetic singing was from our own fans.Instead of behaving like sheep i wish our fans would turn on the instigators and kick em out

As Bongser was not there SM, please elaborate.