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Re: Squads - Leopards v Robins : Sat Jul 01, 2023 9:10 pm  
Leyther in nz wrote:
I will applaud ANY player when they are playing well. Ben has played well most of the time. My comments are on what I have seen the last few weeks and just wonder why the change in him. If he was a young lad just starting in the team I would understand a bit more. To come in swinging like he did at Wakefield isn’t him. Like I said only my observations and my opinion to which I am surely entitled to.


I actually agree with you. I also noticed that when he received a poor pass from ( Mellor I think), he showed his disgust instead of just accepting it ,and just carrying on and forgetting it. I wouldn't be surprised if we sign a top quality half for next season to accompany Lokie..
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Re: Squads - Leopards v Robins : Sat Jul 01, 2023 9:37 pm  
I don't think you played that well, but you well beat us and it was well deserved.
Before the game we thought we might keep it tight for the first ten minutes, unfortunately, we didn't manage it for ten seconds!

Very well deserved win for Leigh, had a good chat with some Leigh fans before the game, great time after as I have friends in the area, awful in between!

Good luck for the rest of the season Leythers.
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Re: Squads - Leopards v Robins : Sat Jul 01, 2023 10:08 pm  
Does that include if we meet in the Challenge Cup Final? If so, most magnanimous, Sandro. :thumb:
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Re: Squads - Leopards v Robins : Sat Jul 01, 2023 10:10 pm  
There's also the little matter of August the 25th to settle.
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Re: Squads - Leopards v Robins : Sat Jul 01, 2023 10:16 pm  
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I don't think you played that well, but you well beat us and it was well deserved.
Before the game we thought we might keep it tight for the first ten minutes, unfortunately, we didn't manage it for ten seconds!

Very well deserved win for Leigh, had a good chat with some Leigh fans before the game, great time after as I have friends in the area, awful in between!

Good luck for the rest of the season Leythers.


:shock: :lol: :lol: :lol: WOW!

If we didn't play that well, you're in serious trouble.
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Re: Squads - Leopards v Robins : Sat Jul 01, 2023 10:51 pm  
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Does that include if we meet in the Challenge Cup Final? If so, most magnanimous, Sandro. :thumb:


I'd wish you good luck, if we managed to get there which I don't think we will, different to wanting you to win!
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Re: Squads - Leopards v Robins : Sat Jul 01, 2023 11:02 pm  
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:shock: :lol: :lol: :lol: WOW!

If we didn't play that well, you're in serious trouble.


It's a compliment mate, not every opposition fan is out to get Leigh.

I thought you looked like putting fifty plus on us, we played poorly, you played well, a lot of our poor play was down to your pack getting well over the top of ours.

You beat us in every facet of the game and we shouldn't have allowed you to do that. That's not saying that my team is better than yours, your team bosses the game in every facet, I didn't think we'd win, but your performance was great and we should have made a change to prevent that.

I didn't fancy us for the win and I'm glad the weather turned out to level thing's up for us as the inferior side otherwise in think you'd have put a much bigger score on us.

I hope that clears it up.
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Re: Squads - Leopards v Robins : Sun Jul 02, 2023 3:19 am  
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It's a compliment mate, not every opposition fan is out to get Leigh.

I thought you looked like putting fifty plus on us, we played poorly, you played well, a lot of our poor play was down to your pack getting well over the top of ours.

You beat us in every facet of the game and we shouldn't have allowed you to do that. That's not saying that my team is better than yours, your team bosses the game in every facet, I didn't think we'd win, but your performance was great and we should have made a change to prevent that.

I didn't fancy us for the win and I'm glad the weather turned out to level thing's up for us as the inferior side otherwise in think you'd have put a much bigger score on us.

I hope that clears it up.



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Re: Squads - Leopards v Robins : Sun Jul 02, 2023 8:28 am  
For me this was not Ben’s best game. He missed a couple of easier kicks, but nailed two that others would have missed. He dropped a couple of balls but nailed some great passes while also committing tacklers to himself in the process.
Watch how he has learned to take on the line one minute, then looks like he is doing the same again but puts out a delayed ball to the player outside of him in the space he just created. Add to that the best defensive half in the game right now (and yes I know he missed a tackle for the try but he really is a workhorse in defence) and we have a player who any team would welcome with open arms.
Plus he is a true spark in the team spirit factor also.
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Re: Squads - Leopards v Robins : Mon Jul 03, 2023 3:47 pm  
Belatedly I'll give my thoughts on the match.

Having been flushed with pessimism since the fallout from the York match I was highly surprised to see us still so competitive away at Catalan.

I thought Hull KR would be as stiff a challenge as their neighbours were but I think losing Coote and Abdull may have affected their creativity. I mean we had a couple of instances where we were defending multiple repeat sets on our own line and as good as we may be I think most teams would crack at the 5th or 6th time of being challenged.

Good to see Chamberlain doing well in place of Kai, necessity appears to be the mother of (re)invention.

Thought Hughes went well, doing a long stint straight after injury and the same with Ben N, who I've always had a soft spot for and think he can be quite handy, he just has been overshadowed by the other freaky workhorses.

Nice to see Holmes get a rest/rotation, and did we play most of the game without Asiata? I think we can take some confidence from that given how pivotal he is.

I've been down on Ben's kicking more than any other aspect of his game and he has proved my wrong with a such a fine conversion rate recently that we find ourselves criticising him when he does miss. I'll will echo others that I think he is jumping a bit too over the edge at times, brain farts in attack and in unnecessary retaliation, trying to con a penalty after getting the ball was just stupid but he is as important to the cohesion of the team as any other pivot.

A big run of fixtures away now that will define our season, with a resurgent Leeds and seemingly buoyed Cas, the dangerous Salford and Wigan and of course Saints.

I'd say we could beat any of them given this team and the form and past results, but being away does had a bit more of an advantage to the opponents. My needle has moved to cautious optimism again.
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