Re: Squads - Leopards v Wolves : Fri Aug 30, 2024 9:52 pm  

Well it was competitive, would have been good to see 13-aside, couldn't tell want Vaughn actually did but reffing team's call.

We seemed to be determined to throw that away, equal shades excellent and rubbish defence which might have been excusable if we'd made the man difference count and been more composed in attack.

Not to take away from Wire's defence.

Or attack.

That's two points I didn't expect.

Break point to use a tennis term, must make it stick at Cas.

Halton continues to impress, as does Trout/

Re: Squads - Leopards v Wolves : Fri Aug 30, 2024 10:45 pm  

To be fair I didn’t see the direct contact to the head originally. I thought it was the forearm to the face on the floor. We seemed to panic at times. Two miss timed passes and another ball thrown out when we have a full set right on there line, all by Moylan, however he made up for it with that tackle in the corner. I thought we had blown it when they broke down field direct from the scrum. We prevailed and I think we must give credit to Wire, just bad unforced errors at crucial times. Wire of two seasons ago would have folded after the send off, but fair play they played their hearts out. We need to win at CAS or this result was for nothing.

Re: Squads - Leopards v Wolves : Sat Aug 31, 2024 3:16 am  

higher intense game than we have had this year but form similar.is it just that we are missing top form asiata to be more clinical last 20
top performers in pack we have big holes to fill. did we miss dwyer
glad to have moylan back would prefer him so but is he better than ob under high ball now
would you give ricky 2 years if new giants coach dont rate him alongside new boy hanley back on wing evergreen josh add armstrong looks strong. can we find another ashton in champ is he quickest in league atm
all to play for now willl stains be crucial good stuff

Re: Squads - Leopards v Wolves : Mon Sep 02, 2024 10:52 am  

Just needed a bit more composure in the first half, Moylan being the main culprit, and we would have been out of sight by half time. Sadly, we forced a play on tackle zero on their line, dropped the ball, then two minutes later it's 6-6.

Awful comments from Burgess after the game. He should come out and say who he's accusing of telling Trout to stay down. It's truly odd that we have a scenario where a tackler hits the ball carrier in the head. The referee misses it, and it's the person that's been hit on the head that comes under the most scrutiny.

Re: Squads - Leopards v Wolves : Mon Sep 02, 2024 11:41 am  

Yes, what he said is now repeated as some kind of cast iron fact.

Have we got another ex-player turned coach who's going get his knickers in a twist because they lost to Leigh?

Re: Squads - Leopards v Wolves : Mon Sep 02, 2024 1:36 pm  

Grade D - 3 match ban for Vaughan.

Re: Squads - Leopards v Wolves : Mon Sep 02, 2024 3:42 pm  

I have lived and worked with the Wire folk for over 20 years, and mostly live in a Rugby League harmony. This week is very different, and accusations of cheating and robbing the Wolves of the title have come from both neighbours and colleagues. Most of stuff being spouted was from Sam Burgess and David Cain https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNCHP08FEFg In case you have not been on Facebook and other social media, the argument follows that: 1. Paul Vaughan is an angel 2. Owen Trout milked the foul by running into Vaughan's shoulder (multiple sources) 3. All the Leigh players told Trout to stay down so that the incident could be reviewed (SL Raw) 4. The Ref - Liam Moore and the video ref Ben Thaler are in a cabal to scupper Warrington's chances of winning the Grand Final 5. Warrington players do not milk penalties by staying down or badgering the officials at every tackle, and in fact it was Leigh who was using these tactics 6. Owen Trout was not injured and the HIA was dramatic effect 7. Josh Thewlis who stayed down on two occasions was seriously injured, even though no penalties resulted from the reviews, and after taking on fluids jogged back to the wing 8. Obviously the Match Review Panel are as bent as the match day officials and have awarded Vaughan a breather for the rest of the season. Grade D - 3 Matches. Sam Burgess and his comments after the match are on a par with Wellens after the Challenge Cup Semi-final. Owen Trout has done nothing wrong and neither did John Asiata, who received vile abuse aimed at himself and his family. Burgess in my opinion has brought the game into disrepute and needs to be fined and educated about how his words and actions can incite behaviour in others.

I have lived and worked with the Wire folk for over 20 years, and mostly live in a Rugby League harmony. This week is very different, and accusations of cheating and robbing the Wolves of the title have come from both neighbours and colleagues. Most of stuff being spouted was from Sam Burgess and David Cain https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNCHP08FEFg In case you have not been on Facebook and other social media, the argument follows that: 1. Paul Vaughan is an angel 2. Owen Trout milked the foul by running into Vaughan's shoulder (multiple sources) 3. All the Leigh players told Trout to stay down so that the incident could be reviewed (SL Raw) 4. The Ref - Liam Moore and the video ref Ben Thaler are in a cabal to scupper Warrington's chances of winning the Grand Final 5. Warrington players do not milk penalties by staying down or badgering the officials at every tackle, and in fact it was Leigh who was using these tactics 6. Owen Trout was not injured and the HIA was dramatic effect 7. Josh Thewlis who stayed down on two occasions was seriously injured, even though no penalties resulted from the reviews, and after taking on fluids jogged back to the wing 8. Obviously the Match Review Panel are as bent as the match day officials and have awarded Vaughan a breather for the rest of the season. Grade D - 3 Matches. Sam Burgess and his comments after the match are on a par with Wellens after the Challenge Cup Semi-final. Owen Trout has done nothing wrong and neither did John Asiata, who received vile abuse aimed at himself and his family. Burgess in my opinion has brought the game into disrepute and needs to be fined and educated about how his words and actions can incite behaviour in others.

Re: Squads - Leopards v Wolves : Mon Sep 02, 2024 6:07 pm  

Re: Squads - Leopards v Wolves : Mon Sep 02, 2024 7:02 pm  

Septimius Severus wrote: I have lived and worked with the Wire folk for over 20 years, and mostly live in a Rugby League harmony. This week is very different, and accusations of cheating and robbing the Wolves of the title have come from both neighbours and colleagues. Most of stuff being spouted was from Sam Burgess and David Cain https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNCHP08FEFg In case you have not been on Facebook and other social media, the argument follows that: 1. Paul Vaughan is an angel 2. Owen Trout milked the foul by running into Vaughan's shoulder (multiple sources) 3. All the Leigh players told Trout to stay down so that the incident could be reviewed (SL Raw) 4. The Ref - Liam Moore and the video ref Ben Thaler are in a cabal to scupper Warrington's chances of winning the Grand Final 5. Warrington players do not milk penalties by staying down or badgering the officials at every tackle, and in fact it was Leigh who was using these tactics 6. Owen Trout was not injured and the HIA was dramatic effect 7. Josh Thewlis who stayed down on two occasions was seriously injured, even though no penalties resulted from the reviews, and after taking on fluids jogged back to the wing 8. Obviously the Match Review Panel are as bent as the match day officials and have awarded Vaughan a breather for the rest of the season. Grade D - 3 Matches. Sam Burgess and his comments after the match are on a par with Wellens after the Challenge Cup Semi-final. Owen Trout has done nothing wrong and neither did John Asiata, who received vile abuse aimed at himself and his family. Burgess in my opinion has brought the game into disrepute and needs to be fined and educated about how his words and actions can incite behaviour in others. i think we all know that some clubs have been guilty of a much more serious and sustained form of cheating than we are talking about here. In some clubs the value and status of a number of players signed in reality bears no resemblence to the values shown on the P60s at season end. Plenty evidence come out over the years.This applies to more than one club of course but certain ones would fall into lthe serial offenders column.

Septimius Severus wrote: I have lived and worked with the Wire folk for over 20 years, and mostly live in a Rugby League harmony. This week is very different, and accusations of cheating and robbing the Wolves of the title have come from both neighbours and colleagues. Most of stuff being spouted was from Sam Burgess and David Cain https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNCHP08FEFg In case you have not been on Facebook and other social media, the argument follows that: 1. Paul Vaughan is an angel 2. Owen Trout milked the foul by running into Vaughan's shoulder (multiple sources) 3. All the Leigh players told Trout to stay down so that the incident could be reviewed (SL Raw) 4. The Ref - Liam Moore and the video ref Ben Thaler are in a cabal to scupper Warrington's chances of winning the Grand Final 5. Warrington players do not milk penalties by staying down or badgering the officials at every tackle, and in fact it was Leigh who was using these tactics 6. Owen Trout was not injured and the HIA was dramatic effect 7. Josh Thewlis who stayed down on two occasions was seriously injured, even though no penalties resulted from the reviews, and after taking on fluids jogged back to the wing 8. Obviously the Match Review Panel are as bent as the match day officials and have awarded Vaughan a breather for the rest of the season. Grade D - 3 Matches. Sam Burgess and his comments after the match are on a par with Wellens after the Challenge Cup Semi-final. Owen Trout has done nothing wrong and neither did John Asiata, who received vile abuse aimed at himself and his family. Burgess in my opinion has brought the game into disrepute and needs to be fined and educated about how his words and actions can incite behaviour in others. i think we all know that some clubs have been guilty of a much more serious and sustained form of cheating than we are talking about here. In some clubs the value and status of a number of players signed in reality bears no resemblence to the values shown on the P60s at season end. Plenty evidence come out over the years.This applies to more than one club of course but certain ones would fall into lthe serial offenders column.

Re: Squads - Leopards v Wolves : Tue Sep 03, 2024 8:16 am  

Septimius Severus wrote: I have lived and worked with the Wire folk for over 20 years, and mostly live in a Rugby League harmony. This week is very different, and accusations of cheating and robbing the Wolves of the title have come from both neighbours and colleagues. Most of stuff being spouted was from Sam Burgess and David Cain https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNCHP08FEFg In case you have not been on Facebook and other social media, the argument follows that: 1. Paul Vaughan is an angel 2. Owen Trout milked the foul by running into Vaughan's shoulder (multiple sources) 3. All the Leigh players told Trout to stay down so that the incident could be reviewed (SL Raw) 4. The Ref - Liam Moore and the video ref Ben Thaler are in a cabal to scupper Warrington's chances of winning the Grand Final 5. Warrington players do not milk penalties by staying down or badgering the officials at every tackle, and in fact it was Leigh who was using these tactics 6. Owen Trout was not injured and the HIA was dramatic effect 7. Josh Thewlis who stayed down on two occasions was seriously injured, even though no penalties resulted from the reviews, and after taking on fluids jogged back to the wing 8. Obviously the Match Review Panel are as bent as the match day officials and have awarded Vaughan a breather for the rest of the season. Grade D - 3 Matches. Sam Burgess and his comments after the match are on a par with Wellens after the Challenge Cup Semi-final. Owen Trout has done nothing wrong and neither did John Asiata, who received vile abuse aimed at himself and his family. Burgess in my opinion has brought the game into disrepute and needs to be fined and educated about how his words and actions can incite behaviour in others. The SL Raw podcast is usually very balanced, but they are way out on this one. Not sure how any of the below can be denied; 1) Vaughan hits Trout in the head with his shoulder 2) While Trout may drop slightly. It's not sudden nor unexpected (given it is caused by another tackle), while Vaughan does nothing to adjust his tackle height. 3) The fact that it is Vaughan's shoulder means that it is automatically deemed forceful 4) Nobody within the TV shot says a word to Trout, instead, they're lining up for the next play the ball. If anybody has told him to stay down, then it is from 20 yards away. I just find it incredible that in a situation where a tackler leads with the shoulder into a ball carriers head, and it is missed by every on field official. It is the ball carrier that is put under the most scrutiny. It's a blatant red card. Not even a "games gone" red card either.

Septimius Severus wrote: I have lived and worked with the Wire folk for over 20 years, and mostly live in a Rugby League harmony. This week is very different, and accusations of cheating and robbing the Wolves of the title have come from both neighbours and colleagues. Most of stuff being spouted was from Sam Burgess and David Cain https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNCHP08FEFg In case you have not been on Facebook and other social media, the argument follows that: 1. Paul Vaughan is an angel 2. Owen Trout milked the foul by running into Vaughan's shoulder (multiple sources) 3. All the Leigh players told Trout to stay down so that the incident could be reviewed (SL Raw) 4. The Ref - Liam Moore and the video ref Ben Thaler are in a cabal to scupper Warrington's chances of winning the Grand Final 5. Warrington players do not milk penalties by staying down or badgering the officials at every tackle, and in fact it was Leigh who was using these tactics 6. Owen Trout was not injured and the HIA was dramatic effect 7. Josh Thewlis who stayed down on two occasions was seriously injured, even though no penalties resulted from the reviews, and after taking on fluids jogged back to the wing 8. Obviously the Match Review Panel are as bent as the match day officials and have awarded Vaughan a breather for the rest of the season. Grade D - 3 Matches. Sam Burgess and his comments after the match are on a par with Wellens after the Challenge Cup Semi-final. Owen Trout has done nothing wrong and neither did John Asiata, who received vile abuse aimed at himself and his family. Burgess in my opinion has brought the game into disrepute and needs to be fined and educated about how his words and actions can incite behaviour in others. The SL Raw podcast is usually very balanced, but they are way out on this one. Not sure how any of the below can be denied; 1) Vaughan hits Trout in the head with his shoulder 2) While Trout may drop slightly. It's not sudden nor unexpected (given it is caused by another tackle), while Vaughan does nothing to adjust his tackle height. 3) The fact that it is Vaughan's shoulder means that it is automatically deemed forceful 4) Nobody within the TV shot says a word to Trout, instead, they're lining up for the next play the ball. If anybody has told him to stay down, then it is from 20 yards away. I just find it incredible that in a situation where a tackler leads with the shoulder into a ball carriers head, and it is missed by every on field official. It is the ball carrier that is put under the most scrutiny. It's a blatant red card. Not even a "games gone" red card either.