: Mon Apr 27, 2009 9:20 am  

The point isn't whether WE believe that we can get one, but more that of 'can we get ourselves in a position where we should get one, regardless of whether or not they will give us one'.

I still believe that the problem lies not with NK but with the backroom staff he has had to put up with, or at least certain parts of it.
I could be mistaken here, but isn't there a trend over the last couple of seasons where we start well, rumours start about the coach losing the dressing room, and it then all goes downhill before the coach is pushed out? Seems like its happening again this year.

: Mon Apr 27, 2009 9:27 am  

LeythIg wrote:

Do you honestly think we stand a chance of a franchise in 2012 anyway?

We're currently around 2000-3000 off an average gate that we could say justifies a franchise.

Celtic this weekend - 2,017 a drop of 66% on first home game a few weeks ago

: Mon Apr 27, 2009 9:42 am  

Scooter Nik wrote:

The point isn't whether WE believe that we can get one, but more that of 'can we get ourselves in a position where we should get one, regardless of whether or not they will give us one'.

Correct. Franchise or not, our aim should be to be as strong a club as we can be. At the moment we appear to have very limited resources and a fan base that needs to improve drastically.

Growing the club to a level that we would like will take time (more than two years we have till the next franchise).

: Mon Apr 27, 2009 9:54 am  

DemonUK wrote:

Celtic this weekend - 2,017 a drop of 66% on first home game a few weeks ago

Wonder how many Cas fans are in that figure - they usually have a good following.

: Mon Apr 27, 2009 9:58 am  

For what my opinion is worth I think NK is a good coach and as has been said he needs his own backroom staff to work with, the main one I think should go is Paul Rowley IMO, all trouble seems to stem from him, as I said this is only MY opinion

: Mon Apr 27, 2009 10:18 am  

DemonUK wrote:

Celtic this weekend - 2,017 a drop of 66% on first home game a few weeks ago

v Hull 5272
v Saints 6351
v Quins 3009
v Cas 2857 (as reported on Sky Sprts Centre)

I think the drop is more than 66% as we can all see for ourselves.

Does anyone like to see a losing team

I am sure Saints and Hull would have had a massive following, but I would have expected Cas to take many more fans than Quins.

Regardless there appears to be a significant trend at the moment. Have they run out of free tickets or are the Welsh public not buying into our game?

I wonder if the 2 plonkers who present Super League will report on this significant trend rather than wetting themselves how well the Welsh public have taken to the Crusaders and indeed Super League as they reported against Hull

Anyhow, lets worry about our own house and let the Welsh worry about whether they can beat the Quins in the averages at the end of the season and indeed pick up a win

: Mon Apr 27, 2009 10:20 am  

leyther forever wrote:

Anyhow, lets worry about our own house and let the Welsh worry about whether they can beat the Quins in the averages at the end of the season and indeed pick up a win

Indeed. Our crowds are definitely nothing to shout about. Frankly, they're embarrassing when stacked against the Crusaders, free tickets or not.

: Mon Apr 27, 2009 10:39 am  

Give Kelly all the tools he needs to do the job and we will be a success. Tie his hands behind his back and he won't be able to do the job to his full ability.

: Mon Apr 27, 2009 11:18 am  

Leyther_Matt wrote:

Indeed. Our crowds are definitely nothing to shout about. Frankly, they're embarrassing when stacked against the Crusaders, free tickets or not.

They are in SL though - we get 2300 in The Co-operative Championship and we're not even playing anything like rugby.

: Mon Apr 27, 2009 11:21 am  

Leigh24.7 wrote:

They are in SL though - we gwt 2300 in NL1 and we're not even playing anything like rugby.

No we don't, we've got that once this season and even then with hundreds of free tickets.